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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. One Tory Minister was quoted as saying she was like Dickens' Mr Micawber hoping something would turn up out of the blue. Well I wish it would bloody hurry up.
     
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  2. kiwiqpr

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    I express all my sorrow for the victims of the Strasbourg attacks. This Parliament will not be intimidated by terrorist or criminal attacks. Let us move on. We will continue to work and react strengthened by freedom and democracy against terrorist violence.



    they move on quickly these europeans
     
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  3. TheBigDipper

    TheBigDipper Well-Known Member

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    Nothing to do with this debate, old chap. Certainly not about insulting other forum members. It was in the context of using insults to demean people who's views you don't agree with - rather than actually explaining what it is about their views that you don't like. Comments like "that muppet [insert politicians name here]" rather than saying what you disagreed with about them or their views.
     
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    I was on a train yesterday morning, the Weymouth service into Waterloo, with a loud gammonish sort of chap sitting in the seat behind. He was already on the train when I boarded at Christchurch. It was hard for the whole carriage not to hear his side of a phone conversation as he was cajoling the other party into meeting him and his chums "at the Abingdon" that evening. It's a high end restaurant/wine bar in Kensington. Highlights included...

    "The whole country is broken. We're a laughing stock..."
    "Nothing works in this country, technology is useless...." (This was after he'd been cut off again as the train travelled on and he'd gone through a tunnel...)

    But, most chillingly (to me).

    "No, I don't want Mogg. I want him to be Chancellor. Boris is looking serious. He's had a haircut, you know".

    After the call he went back to reading the Telegraph.

    The Conservative party "regime change without the public having a voice in who is PM" project continues...
     
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    And so it begins.....The next stage in this farce

    Theresa May to face leadership challenge
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    UK Prime Minister Theresa May will face a vote of no confidence in her leadership later on Wednesday.

    Conservative MPs will vote between 18:00 GMT and 20:00 GMT.

    The challenge to Mrs May's position comes after the required 48 letters calling for a contest were delivered.

    Mrs May, who has been prime minister since shortly after the UK voted to leave the European Union in 2016, has faced criticism in her party for the Brexit plan she has negotiated.
     
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    Johnson and Mogg :eek:
     
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    Can't wait to see who is stupid enough to put their name forward
     
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    Tories, doncha just luv ‘em!?!

    Brilliantly doing what the Her Majesty’s Opposition should have been doing if they had a spine, a direction and a leader. But for all the wrong reasons.

    As far as I know most Tory MPs are remainers, would crack me up to end up with two Remainer candidates to be contesting the leadership.

    A new leader virtually guarantees an extension of Article 50.

    I reckon she will win tonight and is bloody minded enough to hang on even if she only has a one vote victory.

    Are there any actual Tory party members on here?
     
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    I don't think she will lose.

    Which ever way any of this goes there is not the numbers to get anything through Parliament. The way I see it, whatever is put in front of the House Labour will oppose as they are desperate for a GE in any circumstance, and whatever deal (or lack of) is put in front there are enough Gov't rebels on either side of the Leave/Remain divide for the vote not to go through. The Tories would rather avoid a GE, so the only way forward to break the deadlock is a 2nd Ref.

    What a horlicks.
     
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    DUP have said they would support May in no confidence vote, which probably meant that such a vote would not have succeeded yesterday.
     
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    Agree this has always been about the extension
    Beautifully done
    Only then can the nation be re educated
     
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    Ellers he has dated Mrs May
     
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    I am a Tory member (although I haven't paid next years subs).
    What do you want to know?
    Do I think she would win this vote? Not sure because the party needs to look further than Brexit. Would I want her taking through the next election?
    I would also say forget what people say on TV as it's a secret ballot and they will always say they will support her.

    To be honest she has failed on so many fronts that I can't see her surviving. I think they know that she may win it but can you imagine if 100 wanted her out? She may then resign. I think that's their plan
     
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    Corbyn accused May of bottling the vote then he does the same! The bloke is so weak. Everyone can see he is just playing games.
     
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    I think Labour would lose if the Tories had Tommy Robinson as leader! No one wants Corbyn. The bloke is unelectable. Look at the mess the Tories are in? Anyone could have been more popular than them.... except Corbyn.
     
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    More interested to know if you would be pissed off if she loses or resigns and then the MPs do a stitch up like last time so you don’t get a say on who should follow her. And if you do get a shout, who you would like to see fighting it out.
     
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    Only person needs re-educating is you.
     
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    An overheard conversation on a train.
    Completely representative I'm sure.
     
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    I wasn't giving an opinion on who i thought would win a GE; I just think that is the course of action, and a likely course of events, that will get us out of this deadlock. With holding a 2nd Ref, the Tories would be able to fight a GE on an exclusively "not Corbyn" platform. I agree though, i don't think Corbyn is electable either.
     
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    It's been a stitch up ever since we voted to leave.
     
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