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  1. Steven Toast

    Steven Toast Well-Known Member

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    Bruce took us up, then did one. There was then no excuse for the transfer window that followed. Phelan would have known he was in charge, it was down to the board to get the players in. MP would have known which targets Bruce wanted, but to leave us with 13 fit senior players going into the toughest league in the world was down to Ehab alone. It's actually credit to MP and Silva that we put up as much of a fight as we did.

    The policy since the money dried up has been: sign players with a proven injury record that we can get on the cheap. Or, wait until deadline day for cheap players and loans to pop up. It's a pattern we've seen for the last three windows, without Bruce, so it's pretty obvious who to blame.

    As has been said already, the ego of Ehab and his inability to swallow his pride is proof that he's more about himself than he is about the club. He thought he could do it without a footballing man at the club, he was wrong.
     
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  2. Godrevy Buoy

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    **** me. Bruce buys loads of players who are mainly very good and command great fees when they are re sold. He gets relegated and then gets promoted again back into the premier league. He leaves the club in the Premier League pre season. Then it’s his ****ing fault when we get relegated again even though he is not here. It’s his fault the club is in the financial mess it’s in. You could not make it up. What ****e.
     
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  3. HulluvaGuy

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    Amen to that
     
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  4. City Man

    City Man Well-Known Member

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    From memory, Bruce had a meeting with Ehab Allam in the summer of 2016 and enquired about the situation with his wish list of players, and discovered there was no progress whatsoever in securing any of them. Smelling the coffee, he took this as meaning his judgment was not backed and his targets would not be pursued by EA.

    Realising the relationship was broken, he walked.

    I believe he was on some kind of rolling contract deal, but by resigning he effectively terminated the contract at no cost to the Allams, and was no doubt subject to the usual Allam NDA.

    I believe EA had also inserted a clause in his contract that forbade him from having a faster car and leather swivel desk chair. I think SB had reached an agreement about not having to wear a mustard coloured shirt and was happy with that important concession from the owners.

    As I say, that's all from memory.. Google may prove me wrong.
     
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  5. Edelman

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    Well said .
    Bob just does it for attention and the rest are talking complete bollox
     
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  6. Asterix

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    Google has this:

    30th June 2016 - Since the play-off final I have been in contact with our board of directors and other officials on a regular basis and I am confident we all understand what we need to do to be ready for the Premier League season ahead of us,” Note the use of directors plural.

    Steve Bruce looks to be staying at Hull City, despite links with the England job. The 55-year-old’s future at the Premier League club had been in doubt after he called for “certain assurances” from the board amid talk of a takeover.

    16th July reported he had indeed been interviewed for the England job.

    19th July Hull said no official approach was received from the FA before the governing body had “informal discussions” with their manager. The club is understood to have been surprised and disappointed to have received no contact.

    22nd July Steve Bruce has resigned as Hull City manager after becoming increasingly frustrated by a lack of transfer activity at the newly promoted Premier League club.
    Bruce threw everything into a successful promotion campaign but, with Allam Sr no longer involved in the day-to-day running of the club, and relations with Ehab steadily deteriorating, he felt increasingly out of the loop regarding takeover talks.

    He also wondered how much further he could take Hull and was in the dark as to whether any new owners would actually want to retain him. Moreover the former Birmingham, Wigan and Sunderland manager has long felt in need of recharging his batteries by taking a sabbatical. It did not help that the frequent commute from his family home in the Birmingham area was beginning to get him down.

    Bruce is understood to have left with a heavy heart but felt his position had become untenable and that his much-soured relationship with Ehab Allam, the vice-chairman, was irretrievable.
     
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  7. Mr Hatem

    Mr Hatem Well-Known Member

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    Yes, he is a bit needy.
     
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  8. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I don’t see the basis for that assumption. Bruce spent a lot of money in 14/15. He couldn’t keep us up. We did not look like a cohesive team really at any point throughout that season merely a collection of gifted individuals. That continued by and large in 15/16 with us having massively better players than anyone else in the division, that were capable of creating goals from nowhere. Granted he did have the defence organised and working as a unit but our midfield and attack was hopeless. His form continued at Aston Villa with quite possibly the greatest collection of talented players that this level has ever seen, they looked hopeless as a team and turned out dire performance after dire performance. A solid defence and goals created and scored by players far too good for this level kept them high up the table. Just look at Villa go now.

    Bruce couldn’t manage an u10’s team. He should just become a director of football or a scout, a job he would actually be very good at. Can’t argue with the players he signs, he just can’t get the best out of them.
     
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  9. Chazz Rheinhold

    Chazz Rheinhold Well-Known Member

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    Absolute ****ing ****. Getting promoted to the,premier league twice. With one of the smallest budgets while in the premier league and Bruce is to blame.
    I don't say this lightly but obi you're a ****ing idiot.
     
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  10. charon-the-ferryman

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    apparently Villa huffed and puffed and had one of those 'orrible afternoons every time they played
     
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  11. charon-the-ferryman

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  12. City Man

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  13. Edelman

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    I'm beginning to think we didn't deserve that period of over a decade of success.
    If complete clowns like you and some of your ungrateful cohorts think we where underachieving it makes me think you are ****ing clueless ..
     
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  14. Amin Yapusi

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    Who’s said we were under achieving?
     
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  15. Obadiah

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    We had one of the smallest budgets because we our income was one of the smallest. As it was under Bartlett. The Allams just like Bartlett borrowed money to pursue the dream and Bruce helped them spend all their spare cash and £20 million from the bank. Hull City AFC ended up with sweet FA and a debt of £63 million.

    During the period the Allams and Bruce was in charge our income outstripped Burnley's and what did they end up with. If they get relegated this season do you think they'll need to borrow £20 million from the bank to fund their promotion push next season. I seriously doubt it. At the 2017 year end they had no bank overdraft and owed nothing to their owners. In the meantime we've used most of the parachute payments paying the wages of players bought under Bruce who we couldn't sell. And people wanted us to borrow even more money to give to Bruce.
     
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  16. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    I know the numbers were in the accounts but it's hard to believe that it's true. How on earth are we still 63 million in debt, oh and the SMC has also managed to amass debt.
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

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    Do you want to take another look at the fourteen first team players we had on the wage bill at the end of that season and review how utterly ridiculous that statement is?
     
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  18. Edelman

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    How have the SMC costs rocketed so much in such a short period ??
     
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  19. balkan tiger

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    #askehab
     
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  20. Tickton Tiger.

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    The facts do often get in the way of the witch hunters. So if Bruce had been successful with his application for the England job on July 16th where would that have left Hull City ?
    Bruce secured himself a huge bonus when we beat Sheffield Wednesday in the Play Off Final The club was also on the verge of being sold at that time to the Peter Grieve consortium, I would suspect Bruce would have been well aware of this and perhaps he did think his position might be vulnerable ? Is that why he applied, or accepted the invite to apply for the England job ?
    I believe Bruce also knew of Villa's interest during that summer too and maybe thought he was entitled to another pay off from City knowing a new owner would have to pay his contract up if they did indeed sack him ?
    As it happened the buy out never materialised and besides leaving City totally unprepared for the new season it also left the Allams to fund another Premiership campaign when they were fully expecting to have sold the club and it seems they were not prepared to risk handing Bruce another shed load of cash to do it.
    In hindsight would we have been in better shape today if we'd have lost to Wednesday ?
     
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