The players are giving their best for Adkins, no doubt about that. Watching Martin makes slow motion appear fast. Like it or not, Leeds were a much better team than Norwich.
I actually like this post apart from the 'Nige' bit. There is always a scapegoat. Mines Nigel I'm afraid!
For me we have several players like Martin who is capable of much more, I didn't think he was overly bad last night but just not suited to Adkins tactics and Adkins should get the player doing something else so that he is suited coaching wise. The 'threadbare squad' argument doesn't cut it with me, as there are players there who are patently underperforming and I don't agree either that it is their attitude at fault. I'm certain Martin, Dicko and even Will Keane are capable of a lot more than what the current coaching staff, Adkins and all, are getting out of them.
-> BP dark days was less than half 8K. Yep, near enough true. 4 & 5k's. Although if someone brought over 1k that would swell it a bit. I was there. -> What does best run club have to do with attendances hashtag? Accrington and forest green are well run clubs. Doesn't mean they get gates of 60.000 does it. #didyoureallyaskthat? The pretty obvious point was that crowds have plummeted, and continue to plummet, under their (mis-)ownership. Together with the fact that the club continues to fall apart. #argumentativecunt
I thought there was about 5,000 from Hull and maybe 1,500 to 2,000 from Norwich.....how someone came up with 11,000 **** knows. Wasn't looking forward to the game but really enjoyed it in the end, Funny how there was a better atmosphere with fewer there.
I think when the crowd no matter how few see the team giving it everything they do get behind them, it's games like Saturday when nothing is happening fans understandably have nothing to cheer and it becomes boring. The difference between last night and Saturday against Forrest i thought we were never going to score yet last night it could have gone either way and you knew the team was battling like it should.
Yes in the real bad old days when people knew that as well as lowly league position, the people running it were skint, unwilling to invest or just plain clueless. People realise when a club is becalmed or in the doldrums. I'm talking about the dead hand of Christopher Needler, the puppet chairman Fish, the 'too busy and doesn't understand football' Lloyd, the Sheffield stealers. We were in the fourth tier but Don Robinson re-energised the club with ideas, stunts and sound man management. That seeps through to the city as a whole. We are two divisions higher (at the moment) but on a downward spiral. The whole region knows it. We're going through our worst spell since the late 90s. That was the last time I can remember the club and the region so disengaged with each other. For all their alleged business prowess, the current owners never seem to have got the hang of football (and how it works) at all. We are haemorraghing support, goodwill and revenue. The day the current owners go will be the day the club has a chance to repair the damage of the last 4 years of negligent, conceited, wrong headed handling of the football club. We can only hope any new owners will have the sense to re-engage, build bridges and re-construct what is a broken club.A big page needs to be turned. Thousands will return quickly if the new owners get it right, league position is much less important.
Here here .. well said .. i too was party to the Chris Needler days and subsequent shyte hawks that hovered above our club to try and pick us to the bones. I recall Don Robby and the vision he had .. i would also include the Pearson days .. two chairman who wanted to engage and the good feeling it brought to the club and City as a whole. I can only hope if and when we are sold .. we have someone who has a genuine desire to align with the fans and take the club to theirs hearts.
At the time I thought Robby's schtick was a bit crass....but now I can see it drew attention from the media and therefore absent supporters. The energy was infectious, the mood changed. people knew someone was busting a gut to sort it and could see he was a man who put his heart and soul into it.This at a time when many thousands of lightweights had eloped with Arthur Bunting or Roger Millward. Ditto Pearson, took him a bit more time to adjust to local mindset but once he did...WHOOOOOSH!
Robbo was a master manipulator. Almost a conman. I know people going back to the 1960s who had dealings with him regarding greyhounds, concerts (his making far more from Little Richard at Brid Spa on a Thursday night than the council did from the Rolling Stones on the previous Saturday night, was a great example of hid sharpness) and managing local bands. I remember when FC were doing well and we played a home game on the same day for the first time in quite a while. Much talk in the HDM from the rugby lot that it would show which club had the most support. We got over 14,000, which was more than FC, but it was rumoured Robbo had paid for a number of tickets, and was prepared to buy more, to ensure that we did.
Also remember the bad old days and yet whilst many including myself cut there teeth following City back then as a teenager,I personally prefer now to let it go and enjoy the good times we have had rather than regurgitate it. As for talk about what kind of crowds/attendance figures we would get given a takeover including new directors, a lot of boycotting fans would undoubtably both return and stay around regardless of league position and I could foresee a surge of renewed interest from those but not unfortunately many of our fickle stay always who always disappear when times are hard yet gobble up Premiere League and cup tickets when we do well.
You can’t totally agree...he said we knew Martin isn’t good with his head, but you said he is good with his head In fact on that point you disagree I might have been a bit harsh on him last night. However I’m blaming Askew for dragging me away from the pub too early so I hadn’t had chance to drink myself back to cheerful! But as to whether he’s good with his head or not (Martin not Askew) I’m not sure I know. He didn’t seem to get his head close enough to the ball when it was pumped up to himfor me to assess. He seemed to go for the ‘stand next to the opposition player who is about to head it’ option instead. At that he was very good
Some fantastic games tonight,... Villa 5-5 v Forest. And Ipswich's keeper must have backed them to be relegated. What a howler for Brizzles second.
It was 'backs to the wall' last night too, in appalling weather and look how much better the atmosphere was.