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Article: What do you think about So You Think? | Horse Racing

Discussion in 'Horse Racing' started by Zenyatta, Aug 29, 2011.

  1. Janabelle13

    Janabelle13 Well-Known Member

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    Can't see SYT running in the Arc. If he wins the Irish Champion stakes he is more than likely to be packed off back to Australia for a crack at a 3rd Cox Plate. IMO it's more than likely he will stay in the antipodes
     
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  2. Dexter

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    <laugh> QM..those ghastly Eastern Europeans with their positive work ethic,depriving
    the work shy wasters and fecklessly fertile Jeremy Kyle generation the opportunity of employment.

    One suggests occasional travellers arrive at the airport on time,especially when it's Easyjet and Luton.It isn't rocket science,despite what Stellios says.

    There are plenty of other London aerodromes who advertise,and indeed offer,parisian destinations.These may cost a little more but surely a dip into ones money belt,or a withdrawal from under the mattress could help negate the consequential woes mentioned...<whistle>

    Funny how we always like to blame other people when we get it wrong...human nature I suppose.

    I'm a serial offender.
     
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  3. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    Dexter, those of us that live up North find that the London airports cost a lot more petrol money to drive to and have ludicrous Southern car parking charges. Also, for a day at the races (i.e. no hotels, days off work), flights that arrive at Charles De Gaulle at three in the afternoon and return at five are totally useless so most of the Northern airports are non-starters.

    On the occasion in question, I drove to Bedford railway station and got a train to Luton airport. I arrived in plenty of time to get my flight but then got stuck behind a load of useless bleeding foreigners who were incapable of following simple English instructions. For an airport as busy as Luton, I would have expected better organisation so I will be looking to avoid it in future.

    As the EasyJet tickets were non-refundable, I lost £60 plus my return train fare plus three-hundred miles of petrol money.

    I would happily ship the &#8220;fecklessly fertile Jeremy Kyle generation&#8221; off to Afghanistan one-way as it is my taxes that foot the bill when they breed like rabbits or go out looting and rioting. My ancestors must trace their heritage back to Tunbridge Wells but I haven&#8217;t quite started reading the Daily Fail yet.
     
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  4. Dexter

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    <laugh> QM....Only kidding...I couldn't agree more about Luton.

    Unfortunately for me,the company I work for has their UK head office there and I have no option but to patronise the airport...craphole.
     
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  5. Janabelle13

    Janabelle13 Well-Known Member

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    Know the feeling about airport queues. Why can't they have checkin and security segretation? 1 queue for the regular/business travellers who know what they are doing (ie have the documents ready, no liquids in hand luggage etc) and other queues for the once a year flyers/numpties etc
     
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  6. QuarterMoonII

    QuarterMoonII Economist

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    Apologies to those who read what I posted on the Saturday daily thread after So You Think had won the Irish Champion Stakes at 1/4 favourite.

    I was not impressed by So You Think and they will surely have to let him take his chance is the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe now if they want to stand any chance of justifying the Coolmore/Australian hype. My suspicion is that they will opt for the Champion Stakes at Ascot on October 15th or they will head down under for the Cox Plate.
     
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  7. Dancingbraveforever

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    I would head back down under if i were AOB.Cannot win an this years ARC on today's performance.
    Snow Fairy as nice a horse as she,is certainly not among the best middle distance performers in Europe and she pushed him all the way.
     
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  8. Janabelle13

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    Not very impressed by SYT. Snow Fairy was gaining on him at the post, reckon she would come out best of those 2 in a 12 furlong contest
     
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  9. King Shergar

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    SYT, the so called superstar, get real! Flogged to beat Snow Fairy, this horse is no superstar, and if he runs I. The Arc he will get smashed. Rewilding>So You Think, and I dong see any reason to question that. It just shows how ****e Ausiie racing is. Superstar, hahahaha. Good horse, but that's about it, had he taken on Twice Over in the Juddmonte I believe he would have been smashed, but I guess we will never see SYT in Europe again, because his owners are to scared his colours could be lowered once again:biggrin:
     
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  10. King Shergar

    King Shergar Well-Known Member

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    And to think Cape Blanco has been packed off to the USA to make way for this Aussie pile of crap is laughable, I think every man and his dog knows had Cape Blanco been aloud to defend his Irissh Chamion Srakes crown that he would have shown SYT a clean pair of heels. If anyone wants to doubt me, check out Cape Blanco's easy wu. over Rip Van Winkle and Twice Over, both far superior 10f horses than the filly Snow Fairy :biggrin:
     
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    Coolmore supremo John Magnier said of their winner: "He's a good horse, and she (Snow Fairy) is a very good filly, so it was a good race.

    "This horse's record is there for everyone to see. He's the kind of a horse who we are spoilt for choice with options.

    "He could run in the mile race at Ascot (Queen Elizabeth II Stakes), the mile-and-a-quarter race (Qipco Champion Stakes, Ascot), or he could run in the Arc."

    Of a potential return to Australia, Magnier added: "You could never say never, but it's not imminent."

    I'll give you 1-10 that he goes for the easy option of the Qipco Champion Stakes. In the QEII he meets Frankel and in the Arc the cream of 12F horses.
     
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  12. NassauBoard

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    Shergar obviously was on the beer when writing that.
     
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  13. beeforsalmon

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    To sum up So You Think's three main challenges to date I was unimpressed, then mildly impressed and back to unimpressed again last night. Underwhelmed may be a more apt description of my emotion in fact.

    First up his defeat by the ill fortunate Rewilding. A race I'll always associate with O'Briens excuse 'don't blame the horse blame the trainer'. We won't ever know what he was beaten by that day due to tragic circumstances but the defeat hardly warranted the Coolmore hyperbole. The jury was still out, next time we'd be blown out of the water with what this 'superstar' horse could do.

    Next his defeat of Arc/Derby winner Workforce over ten furlongs at Sandown. I took my cap off to him that day as he showed, at least, he won't shirk a battle. Albeit he was rather workmanlike and we can't forget that Workforces other runs this year haven't shrieked 'superstar' to me. So the jury was still out on the beast from Down Under.

    Last night produced a great battle between two very high class performers. Snow Fairy is a filly from the top drawer and has Group One colt beating performances in the Far East though I'd be surprised she could do that in Europe. If she did, we should be seeing Midday (a superior filly) winning the Arc hardheld by about ten lengths and I can't see that happening. Nothing, in the history of the world ever, surprised me less than Derrick Smith's comments than 'their was plenty left in the locker in the run in'. Of course not Mr Coolmore spokesperson, to suggest otherwise would make So you Think look quite a costly, grossly overhyped 'wonderhorse' and I'm sure you wouldn't want us to think you forked out that massive cheque to buy that now, would we?!

    I don't know if any of you heard an interview shortly afterwards on RTE last night by someone I don't know the name. But he could be considered slightly more impartial than Mr Smith as he hadn't invested millions in the massive Coolmore operation and hadn't paid a penny for So you Think. He summed up by saying that this horses only chance of another victory this year would be in the English Champion Stakes, there'd be no point sending him to the Arc on that evidence today as he was all out in the end.

    I think he'd be found out in the Arc too, let's be honest here folks So you Think is no wonderhorse, he's nowhere near being O'Briens best ever horse, nowhere near. But they spent big, very big, so they have to talk bigger. To me when I think of a superstar, a true wonder horse I know one, as I've seen him. We all have. That horse is Frankel. Anyone defending So You Think answer me this question. Between a mile and a mile and a quarter what would happen if Frankel and SYT met? Anyone that's suggesting SYT would get near, and I do mean near, Frankel is from a different planet to the one you and I reside in. It's really that simple. In fact I'd wonder whether SYT could even deal with Twice Over should they meet in the English Champion Stakes. If that race hadn't been switched from Newmarket I'd be pretty confident old Twice Over would at least put it up to the big horse there. And let's be realistic here, Twice Over is from another school to Frankel. Frankel would simply annihilate So you Think, as Frankel, he is the superstar horse. No need for hyperbole, no lies, no excuses he is a true wonderhorse. We don't hear Henry Cecil wax lyrical about Frankel very often. The difference is folks, he doesn't have to. His horse can walk the walk.

    So you Think? I really, really don't. Not anymore and neither should you.
     
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  14. Dexter

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    Shergar doesn't need beer or any other substances to precipitate such incisive utterings..it's a gift <laugh>..
     
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  15. Ron

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    <laugh> Couldn't stop chuckling at this Shergar. What had you been drinking?
     
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  16. QuarterMoonII

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    I will take it from the various contributions in the last twenty-four hours on this thread that the consensus is that So You Think will not be in the Arc line-up (and I suspect that Snow Fairy will duck it also) and that he will be heading for the Champion Stakes on October 15th, for which he is no racing certainty.

    I think that the Arc winner this year will be French and will be seen - not necessarily winning - at Longchamp on Sunday 11th September. I openly confess to a bias here as I have backed Sarafina ante-post, but if Meandre trots up in the Prix Niel, he will be Arc favourite.
     
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  17. Dexter

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    QM,I like both Sarafina and Meandre,delaying decision until nearer the day.Can't have anything from here or Ireland tbh.
     
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    meandres overlal record is poor(3 wins from 9) but he certainly as great turn of foot.so looking at his earlier form using france galop and archive videos, i suspect he is reluctant to go through horses ,like workforce did in the arc last year, and needs a clear run so the likely large field is putting me off him.he got disqualified once for his veering and also his worst ever race was in a large field.he will probably win a small field prix foy,but i dont think hes the bravest of horses.

    a strong trend is also agaist sarafina,horse who win the arc dont run in it the yera before,obviously with good record of 3yo's but every 3-4 years a older horse does win,and they have not ran in it the year before.i suppose if it wasnt good enough to win it the year before,then why should it now?
     
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  19. FulkesFestival40

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    I'm afraid SYT has just left me feeling cold. A shame because we should be excited about horses of this quality coming over here.
     
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  20. Dexter

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    I think he is top notch Fulkes,but you are correct,he hasn't really shown as yet.
     
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