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Match Day Thread Vs Fulham (H)

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  1. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Once one went in we were always going to win.

    Linesman got the call right, ref got the rolling ball wrong.

    Wewerepoorenough and I'm not arsed really about officials.
     
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  2. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Sums it up nicely.
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Yes but did the linesman only guess.... which isnt directed at you btw.
     
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  4. Zanjinho

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    Ruling out a legitimate goal is different to making a team retake a free kick 100yards away!
     
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  5. carlthejackal

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    The official is NOT supposed to guess. Yes we got the benefit this time but how poor are these refs and linesmen? Totally incompetent unless there are #bentasfuck ;)
     
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  6. Zanjinho

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    No, he was in a poor position and the angle made it look like a clear offside. He didn't guess, he got lucky.
     
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  7. astro

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    Guess what?

    He knew for a fact multiple Fulham players were in offside positions and moving to play the ball

    Did he know Mitrovic specifically was offside? Almost certainly not since 4 offside Fulham players were in front of him and then another just behind him making judging his position impossible

    If that goal was wrongly allowed to stand, would it become a #legit tactic to block the linesman's view with an offside player near the line, claim he was inactive so can't be offside, and claim he can't give anyone else offside because he can't see?

    That would be the precedent being set
     
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    In previous seasons we don’t beat the ‘lower’ teams
    So I am happy we are clearly addressing the game management aspect
    If that means sacrificing some of the entertainment quotient then I am fine with that
    But we are getting perilously close to another well trodden debate :)

    With regards to the melt down you referred to
    Two wrongs don’t make a right which. U seem very close to the it all evens itself out but it doesn’t

    No idea what would have happened but the goal v Arsenal should have stood no question
    We may have been denied points against top 6 rival

    I would have traded that to go a goal down today
    As I would have fancied our chances of being woken up as a team had that happened.

    Also think of the possible ramifications for Fulham and sides around them.

    All I have ever wanted is fairness VAR whilst clearly not perfect would assist in getting a step closer.
     
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    This is spot on and is where the rule has lead the game. Linesmen have an almost impossible job unless they either wait to see which players become "active" or guess. They are not meant to be mind readers!
     
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    Just gonna put this out there but Windy is better than Kante <badger>
     
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  11. carlthejackal

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    Still. The official is not supposed to give the foul/offside/penalty if he didn’t see it. How many times did we see barn door clear cut pens not given because the ref didn’t see it clearly?

    I think you would have complained if we had conceded that goal as Fulham did with the ruling off of the goal and the quick free kick..;)
     
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    He should have given the offside for the 4 players he could see

    They are active if they are moving

    If they aren't there and Alisson is one on one with Mitrovic then he easily deals with it

    Being running distractions makes them active
     
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    Hang on. I thought that you insisted that Mane wasn’t offside just because he was running towards the ball...;)
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

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    My point is there's no point thinking about referees and linesman. They can be ****e. I wouldn't even say it evens itself out. You have to focus on what you can control.

    Going nuts about one decision in the 19min of a game we later lead and ignoring the problems we have is as counter productive as defending a refereeing decision that favours us.


    We sat off and strolled this one before and after we scored. We know whats not right with our lot but right now we are top of table, we may be 1st 2nd or 3rd by next week and it's tantalising close to being a proper outfit.
     
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  15. moreinjuredthanowen

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    Yes he should have been flagged off in the first phase and there would be no debate.

    :bandit:



    Seriously can we now please park the refs and discuss the issues we do have?
     
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    Mané's run wasn't distracting the keeper, Fulham's players were
     
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  17. Zanjinho

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    He wasn't great today, he was anonymous!
     
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    Aaaand that’s a no :) lmao
     
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    Quietly effective ?
     
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  20. Zanjinho

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    He didn't do anything wrong so maybe. Just expect CMs to step up a bit when teams sit deep
     
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