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  1. itfcptc

    itfcptc Well-Known Member

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    Waghorn and even Garner would have made a huge difference to us. I even wager that PH would still be here if those strikers weren't sold
     
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    We drew a lot of games so the win would have come sooner, but it was very fine margins either way that have caused us to be where we are. They wouldn't have dramatically improved the team. And that is all with the benefit of hindsight and our current situation is not down to that alone. With the benefit of hindsight Marcus Evans never buys the club or sacks Jim Magilton or appoints Roy Keane or lets Jordan Rhodes go or lets Daryl Murphy go. Berra and Smith are still at the club. The list of bad decisions is endless. We got £5m for Waghorn so it's nowhere near the top of the list.
     
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    Absolutely right in every respect,it's hardly rocket science though,I feel we've been sold down the river big time.
     
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    Again,I disagree,selling Waghorn was f/£k up of the Century.
     
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  5. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Not many people felt it was a mistake at the time. A couple did but the consensus was that we mugged Derby.
     
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    Some of us have balked at the "good business" our wonderful owner has done for quite some time now.Left backs being a case in point.Look back,I was very critical of us trading down Cresswell,for Mings,for Knudsen,if you don't improve the squad (derr!) you fail.It's not hindsight it's basic ambition.KEEP YOUR BEST PLAYERS,
     
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  7. YorkieLancsHampyLondoner

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    Well, like I said, Waghorn is a very average player so blaming Hurst when we’ve let players like Cresswell go is ridiculous.

    He has to raise money somewhere, the fault is with Evans alone.
     
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    For a "very average player" Waghorn is streets ahead of what we've got now.The blame didn't lie with Hurst.
    I think we agree where the real blame lies:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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    Ben Morris could have been the solution. Letting him and Woolfenden go out on loan I think proved even more costly than the Waghorn sale. And I felt that if Jackson and Harrison had played together from day one they could have clicked together. A big problem with Jackson is confidence and a drought of opportunities. And even if not, surely the issue is with the signings in. We have managed to sign decent forwards for £1m many times. There are so many permutations and that’s my point really. I would have sold Waghorn for that money all day long.
     
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    I think it was good money for Waghorn, a bit like the Murphy situation however it's only good if you replace them well and in both situations we didn't!!
     
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    The difference with Murphy was that he scored twice as many goals and even if he didn't score in a game he dragged the whole team performance up with his hunger.
     
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    Watching Wigan v Leeds. What a sad excuse for a footballer Joe Garner is. Win or lose at least our players are honest.
     
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    Definitely not sorry we got rid of him!
     
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    Sorry, the same Ben Morris who has torn it up at Forest Green............. the answer !?!? Maybe he's a talent - but he's not the answer right now.

    As for Waghorn ' bang average ' - WHAT? Corners caused absolute chaos. Last season he got either the most / second most goals + assists in the division in a crap side.

    Your definition of ' bang average ' is somewhat different to mine. VERY VERY good player at this level - who didn't wish to leave, who we haven't come close to replacing.
     
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    Fully agree Dave - incidentally Culverhouse is back with Kings Lynn. McNally was the driving force behind our success and the driving force behind our current success is Webber. I have no idea what he is like but the bloke at your Club doesn't seem to have any drive - is that where your problem lies? Is he just a ' yes man ' for your owner?
     
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    Ian Milne has been part of the Marcus Evans Group at least as long as Evans has been owner, but he knows nothing whatsoever about running a football club. Town fans generally find him offensive.

    http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/norwic...k-says-ipswich-town-chief-ian-milne-1-5047212
     
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    1950canary Well-Known Member

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    And there my friend is the difference. McNally was Chief Exec at Celtic and another Club before joining us and was given full control. Webber learned his trade at Liverpool and was Director of Football at Huddersfield before he joined us. He has full control over all playing matters including recruitment, sales and appointments and dismissals including the Head Coach and the Academy. The Board and the Finance Director give him a budget and do not interfere further. Mr Milne might not think it works but a look at the league table tells a different story
     
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    Lets face it Milne is Evans poodle, his mouthpiece whilst the ticket tout continues with his reclusive bullshit, we need an owner who apart from many other things interacts with the supporters, has regular accessible contact with the supporters, and is a recognisable face of the Club. After all we are not talking about a star of stage and screen, royalty, or Elvis, he sells tickets at inflated prices for Christ's sake!
     
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