The United States gives Israel more aid than all of Latin America, Caribbean and Africa combined - that's how they managed to build a viable state. I am sure the Palestinians as a race are not incapable of building a state, or less efficient at doing so than those of Jewish ethnicity. Without having a great deal of knowledge about the total aid given and what the hell they did with it I'm pretty sure that if they had received as much money per head as Israel over the years then they probably wouldn't have turned to extremism. 'You give a man bread you take away the revolution' as the old saying goes.
Mick The amount of money received does not necessarily influence the decision to turn to extremism The Palestinians receive aid from Israel, the US, the EU, the Arab states, Russia, China and others Yet they continue to attack Israel (note that the attacks only come from territory not controlled by Israel) Humans are not necessarily motivated by money
sorry but if you read some of the stuff that came out during wikileaks, you will see your information was/is wrong egypt for starters is in collussion with the US. and helped in the gaza debacle the clintons are israeli sympathisers, look at hilary speeches recently. Arafat was a pillock, who is/was married to a jew most of the arab regimes are peppet regimes, again see wikkileaks for some of their real views
mick as i posted earlier , The US says clearly that it will veto anything put to the UN unless Israel says its ok, regardless It will also pull its aid if a fuss is made and Israel says it will see it as an act of war
not at all. but they do offer an insight to what is really being said etc eg is egypt afriend/foe to isreal? Deliberately denying the humanitarian needs of the population in an occupied territory is a war crime under the 1949 Fourth Geneva Convention, one that Israel has been committing with impunity. The cables show the extent to which Israel could rely on American and Egyptian officials as accessories in these crimes. -As the Palestine Papers, Ahmed Qureia, a top official of Mahmoud Abbas’ US-backed PA also wanted to Israel to re-invade parts of Gaza, so deep was the PA’s hatred for and rivalry with Hamas.
As I said I support all people who are subject/have been subjected to these crimes -be it in Palestine, Ireland, Tibet. I'm Catholic, I have no vested interest in Jews, Muslims, Hindu's, Sikhs, Anglicans, Presbyterians.............
he 'bemoaned' it certainly. but you have to look at what was on the table. and arafat did 'accept' what people forget is that the israelis did not want the peace plan to work. hence ehud barak was replaced by the right wing areil sharron incidentally clinton also says this about sharrons rise to pm
The first part would imply that Nasser did in fact not hate Israel The second part owes more to PA/Hamas rivalry instead of love of Israel
Wrong Arafat walked away from the peace plans because he wanted all or nothing He knew that he could count on the support of, in the words of Stalin, useful idiots
lets flip that, and ask how many people would support israel if they saw the reports from 'neutral' organisations such as amnesty etc? for me there is no 'arab cause' only an israel cause. why will the us for example not just say here is the border, dont like it? tough shoite
In an interview with the Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz, Mr Arafat also says he is prepared to accept a Middle East peace plan put forward by former US president Bill Clinton in December 2000. and it wasnt all or nothing. it was the usual 'you will do x y and z or else' read the terms
Amnesty isn't a neutral organisation But let's forget that and focus solely on the borders In 1948 there was Israel from the Sinai to the Golan to the West Bank Between 1948 and 1967 there was a genuine occupation of Gaza/West Bank
there are others too. as for the borders, well you need to look at the initial borders and make up of the area to see the hypocricy of today almost 70% of the population was non jewish, so democracy? also i know people spout the 'blame the US' line whenever anything is said, but this is what a british mp said "It is an iniquitous scheme, and the chief instigator is a country for whom I have the profoundest love and admiration, next after my own, namely America. I do not believe all the tales about America, about the almighty dollar, and the rest. Americans are a very noble people and have more idealism than most nations of the world. But I have a criticism to make of America on this occasion, or at least of the American delegates to U.N.O. What is the motive? Let us be frank about it. One of the chief motives is that the Jews have a controlling voice in the election for the President in the States of New York, Illinois, Ohio and elsewhere in America. I suggest that the chief reason for this evil proposal of U.N.O. is that the political parties in America, or their party machines, are partly at the electoral mercy of the Jews. That is public knowledge also interesting is that there is a 'zionist' myth that now exists. there was actually very little zionist support in the 30's and 40's
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The problem isn't Jews or Arabs. The problem is Zionists. Do away with them and the problem would be solved within 12 months. Oh yeah, and **** America too!