Article: Best vs Carroll | Football, Newcastle

quoted the whole artice just to say that

 

You're exactly right. Here's another example of the same ****e just below though:

For the 10,000,000th time, this is a comparison of goal contributions. It's not a comparison of quality, or ability, or potential, or anything. Just goals.

 

I didn't bother reading the whole thing, just saw people comparing Best and Carroll on ability and thought they're 2 different types of forwards so it's stupid. However, I agree that goal contribution is fairly even between them and it's baffling how some people still say he's ****.

 

Pretty pointless then...

 

Exactly. Carroll is a much better player, and there's obviously a gulf in class between Carroll and Best. However, the gulf clearly isn't large enough to consider Best a '****' player.

Some people just can't seem to get the idea out of their heads that he's ****, even with 8 goals in 13 apps and a better goal/shot ratio than Carroll ever had. I get that he was **** for a while, I get that his play isn't particularly amazing, and I get that he's offside an awful lot, but with the goals he's brought to the team, there's no denying that he's no longer ****. In fact, if he keeps this form up, he could be quite a bloody good player and possibly bag 12-14 goals or even more if he plays most of the games this season. What more do people want?

 

Wouldn't mind that goal to game record with one of our strikers

 

I'd love to know which one Liverpool fans would rather have in their squad right now ;-)

 

Best's more of a Darren Bent type player, not a particularly talented player technically, but bloody good at being in the right place at the right time and getting the ball in the net!

Although i have to say, Best has pretty decent control, he's amazing at controlling long balls and crosses!

 

I have to say I think hes alright, he does a job as I've said earlier but I honestly cant see him getting more than 10 goals this season.

I think Ba will end up with the most provided he can stay fit

 

I think what people want is a replacement of the quality of Andy Carroll and having to 'make do' with a player like Leon Best when we were promised a replacement for Carroll is simply not what was promised.

 

Sorry, but none of our striker targets this season were anywhere near the quality of Carroll. Gameiro might have been, but in the latter stages when we were after Maiga, it was obviously we wouldn't get anyone particularly amazing.

Best has scored 2 already in 2 apps. He has 8 to go. If he plays another 30 odd games or whatevers left, I really think he has the ability to surpass 10.

 

Im afraid your clutching at straws mate..

Ironically you are doing what your arch enemy built his name on (Tash/HMT), writing articles which are going no where, then are you so blinded by your own article you abuse anyone against your own opinion! I dont get what your trying to achieve here?

Carroll is a better player whatever the stats say, so who cares about the stats, sometimes stats dont show the whole picture so whats the point sticking to them!!!

Leon Best is the best we have granted but theres no point comparing him to Carroll it isnt going to make anyone feel better!

 

I thought it was Demba Ba that was better than Carroll a couple of months ago? Will it be Ameobi in another couple of months?

 

You cannot argue with statistics. 8 in 13 goals, a better shots to goals ratio and a similar number of points gained as Carroll. This isn't some daft opinion. It's FACT. However, somehow, some people still dispute it and claim that Best is awful!

What I was originally trying achieve was to show everyone a simple comparison between Best and Carroll for their consideration. Perhaps a bit of an eye-opener that what Best has contributed to the team isn't as bad as people think and actually isn't that far off what Carroll contributed. Perhaps it could have gave some a little comfort as we go into the first half of the season with him as one of our main strikers. However, people got completely the wrong end of the stick and went off on all sorts of different ideas.

You're saying the same stupid **** many others have said without even reading. Use your eyeballs:

And 'who cares about the stats'? Are you for real? Stats are goals, and a striker is there to score goals. It's the whole bloody point of football. A striker could be the most incredible technical wizard on the planet, but if he barely scores goals, he's a **** striker.

I could not give a crap how the goals are scored, or how impressive the play is. I just want a striker who scores frequently and gets us points, and guess what? Best does.

It is when you realise that Best has scored more goals in more games and gave us almost as many points as he ever did.

 

He put some statistics to show how much goals each player scored and how much they contributed to the season. He is not saying 'Best is better!' or 'Carroll is ****e', he is simply stating that Best does score some goals .

That has all he has done.

 

I wish I never bothered now . I just thought I'd spend the time to figure out some stats which some people might find interesting and perhaps even a little comforting for the doommongers. How wrong I was.

 

Why are people obsessing over the idea of this thread being an attempt to say Best is equal to or better than Carroll? We all know he's not and that they're different players, but that doesn't mean that we're not allowed to do a bit of statistical comparison, regardless of how they only convey what the actual stat is designed to convey, and not the full picture of a player's ability etc.

 

I'd just give up Chappaz, you're not going to get through to some people. They want a direct replacement of class, ignoring the fact Best is doing just as good, if not potentially better than Carroll did goal wise.

 

I enjoyed the thread, for what little that is worth

 

Read all the replies, it's like people want to hate Best and love Carroll.

I thought the way Best got his two goals against Fulham were very well done, he managed to run into a crowded area and tap it in and his second goal was class considering Ba was trying to take his foot off with the cross (good cross in terms of direction though).

Best has been on MotD a few times, as most good players have, they come up with some stupid pun every time for every player and most of the time they are so bad it's funny.

What was it last week, 'Simply the best'