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Article: Do you think SD is doing a good job and was the right choice as manager? | Football, Watford

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Do you think SD is doing a good job and was the right choice as Manager?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. Haven't Decided

  4. Time will Tell

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  1. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    I think he has done brilliantly, bringing in 10 players and we do perford well when we play, we just need to start converting those chances.
     
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  2. Markthehorn

    Markthehorn Well-Known Member

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    Results wise no but like you say we haven't been totally rubbish this season but then lots of teams can point to "bad luck" over a season and we do need to ensure the new players can gel and we start collecting positive results soon.
     
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  3. babyhornetdan

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    I think he wants to play the right way, which for me is attacking rather than exposing our slightly weaker defence, and he is instilling a belief that we can win and that we deserve to win. This was half the battle in previous seasons, that we werent hungry and we had little desire. Against Birmingham i think i saw the most desire i have seen for a while from the whole team, not just 1/2 individuals. This showed in that we restricted them and prevented them getting many shots on target which is key. The game was dominated in the center of the park and neither team got any real breaks.

    Dyche has been allowed to bring in some real quality and they are starting to show their worth now, and im sure they will work wonders in time. That is the key word, Time. We have played 5 games and only have 3 points, however we deserve at least 7. 3 from the Burnley, Derby and Coventry games. I think the West ham game was an exception and you can not expect to compete with a team of that quality!! The Birmingham was good and we both deserved a point, we failed to learn the lessons to defend their corners but we battled and wanted it more. We are improving and the team is gelling well and in another 3/4 games we could see a complete change around and we could dominate a lot of games.

    Overall i give Dyche a 7 so far.
     
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  4. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    Rightly Said, although we have 3 points from 5 games.
     
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  5. babyhornetdan

    babyhornetdan Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, i was working out the current and should be totals at the same time lol. I therefore missed the point at Cov. hehe, oops
     
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  6. Norwayhornet

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    Bought a load of players in , came in at a turbulent time, I think he is doing ok but needs a win soon! My only worry is he doesnt seem to trust the kids , I would like to see more of whichelow Murray even Britt!
     
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  7. North North Watford

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    Was he the right choice as manager? Unequivocally yes. Results aside, has he done the right things given the constraints he is working under? Very much so. Does Bassini deserve criticism for appointing him? Not in the slightest: it was the correct decision.

    He'll stand and fall by our league results and league position though. While West Ham aside the league performances have been acceptable, we can't continue losing and drawing games that we're doing enough to win on an indefinite basis.
     
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  8. Bradleysdad

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    The poll is tricky I guess because two different issues are tied together. He certainly was the right choice though regardless if events go on to suggest that he doesn't work out.

    Having said that, I am not saying that he is not doing a good job or will fail. Time will definitely tell on that front. My view is that he seems to being doing a lot of the right things, but results haven't yet come; I have not seen enough games to know whether that can be laid at him. Still no need to panic yet. I think we are in line for a solid if unspectacular season.
     
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  9. hockdude

    hockdude Active Member

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    Completely agree with Bradleysdad time will tell whether he is a good manager but he was 100% the right choice at the time.
     
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  10. Roger68

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    Well, I was in favour of his appointment because it was decisive and promised continuity . But we have had the opposite of continuity. The style of play looks more physical and direct than under Malky or Rodgers, and the team is virtually a new one. I find it hard to identify with the team that Dyche has assembled (note:assembled, not developed) and I am disappointed that so many of the young players who were showing so much promise last season seem to have been marginalised this season, instead of continuing their development. They must be puzzled and disappointed too. BTW the comment that last seasons team had to be changed because it lacked "desire" is , with all due respect, ridiculous.

    I don't see a great deal of quality in the players bought in. It remains to be seen of course, and one or two might prove me wrong, but most look like journeymen, with no greater potential for development than our own Academy products. So we now have a team that is more experienced and with more depth than last year, which will probably avoid relegation, but there are no game changers/match winners among them, so I have no expectation of a finish outside the bottom 6.

    The Stephenson plan was to develop the team over time such that 50% of the starting line-up are Academy products, while 80% of transfers in would be a "success" ( add capability to the squad, capable of being sold at a profit). We were moving in that direction under Rodgers and Mackay. Dyche will be judged a good manager if he gets us back on that track.Till then it is premature to judge him

    Note: Rodgers and Mackay left under a cloud because after some success with us they got better offers, which some fans thought they should refuse. I hope Dyche leaves under the same cloud, and not for different reasons.
     
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  11. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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    Agreed Roger I feel that the development of our kids has been stunted to a degree so far this season , I want to see the whichelows ,murrays et al continue their advancement ! whilst it is good to get some depth in the squad ,it does seem to be detrimental to the Kids ! A tough one for SD to juggle!
     
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  12. Al the Hornet

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    He is doing things his way, not BR or MM's way but SD's way still got to see which way that is, due to the amount of personnel he has brought in. His type are manly men, not finesse players but rough and tumble get stuck in type (except Forysth) Now we shall see what he can do with his squad, they will have had time to gel a bit during the international break which hopefully has come at the right time for us. Get the team together, train together work out his best first 11. The only way is up, keep the faith!
     
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  13. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    The 5 sub rule is minimizing player development
     
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  14. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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    Agreed Lloydy and I think that hurts clubs like us!
     
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    what Roger said :)
     
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  16. Norwayhornet

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    Would like to see Britt get a game or 2 this season
     
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  17. LuxWFC

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    Dyche was the only real choice. He's been at the club for a long time now, and had the experience of being under managers all with similar constraints as he is now, and he knows the players, the club's tradition etc.

    Anyone else who is an inexperienced manager would have been 2nd to Dyche. Anyone who was experienced would not really want to take us on, considering the loss of Danny Graham, lack of funds and relegation possibility. Even if they did, we wouldn't be paying them much.
     
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  18. Norwayhornet

    Norwayhornet Well-Known Member

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    True enough Moose I dont think there was a huge queue waiting for an interview!
     
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  19. Lloydinio

    Lloydinio Well-Known Member

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    It was cheaper so thats why probably did it
     
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  20. Si

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    He was certainly the right man for our circumstances. My only concern is that you can only go to the well with young up and coming managers so many times and expect to consistantly unearth gems. Wasn't Dyche originally reluctant to take the role? It's a results game and I worry for the pressure which is going to build the longer we go without a win.

    It takes time to bed in players and for the team to gell but these days time is a commodity that is pretty lacking. Still, Monday night will have given Marvin even more confidence not to mention adding £1m to his value! Here's hoping we are better creatively tomorrow.
     
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