I don't agree with stripping him of the captaincy... He's been punished...do we need to keep on hanging him? He's a good bloke...he ****ed up and celebrated captaining his country to a WC trophy, just a tad too much. He got lucky...hes the type of bloke not to do it again...let him get on with his life. If he does it again...there's a problem. This shouldn't be the reason he loses his captaincy just because many of us think he's not a great captain anyway. Plus I wouldn't give it to Kane....I think he tries too much...it would affect his game in a bad way...could be wrong. I find him lumbersome and not very pleasing to the eye lately. He plays like he's just had to cross the Sahara without any water just before KO.
Modern society is so full of bullshit and pc crap. A society that tolerates the exploitation of those at the bottom of society and refuses to help people from other countries struggling to survive. A society quite happy to hold weapons of mass destructiuon and send armed forces to other countries to wreak death and mayhem and claims the moral high ground. A country that makes the life of West Indian immigrants (who were invited here in the first place) pure hell for years and years then thinks it's tolerant because it;s hard on drink drivers. Just **** of with the hypocritical nonsense. I don't think drink driving is a good idea (of course not) and I have never been guilty of it myself. In case you think I have an axe to grind it's not that. In reality the level of driving competence is so low IMO that many are worse than drink drivers anyway. Tailgating is so common and very little is done about it. A practice that probably leads to most of the moving accidents is tolerated. Drunks make bad decisions btw that's what they do. Modern society is far worse than it was in the 60's in so many ways (including Spurs) an yet it's more preachy and always ready with it's opinions.
You can tell a drink driver usually by their rigid adherence to every part of the highway code. Very few other people stay braking distance behind, within the speed limit and indicate every time they change lanes. Without the reaction time increase in an emergency they are probably the safest drivers.
Someone at work asked me today if I thought Lloris was really injured, I thought about it for a sec and said most likely not 5 - 6 weeks worth of injury. Another cryptic way of suspending him without using the exact terminology.
Not always. When I was in my teens I got totally sh!tefaced on Barley wine and after giving the pub landlord my crash helmet early in the evening and instructing him not to let me ride, I made so much noise and acted like an ar5ehole later demanding it back, he gave it to me and barred me at the same time. I set off up the road but didn't see some roadworks hiding a fekking great hole in the road. I rode straight through the signage and straight down the hole. I was thrown from my bike and laid unconscious in the rain on the side of the road until a passing motorist saw me and called an ambulance. I woke up in hospital with a police officer standing above me who asked me if I'd been drinking. I said yes officer, I had a can of lager before I left home. He said you've had a darn site more than a can of lager, I can smell it from here. But if I nick you I will be up all night filling out forms, I want to get home to my wife and kids, I will put it down to bad weather conditions. You have enough problems with your body and your bike. I thanked him and wished him good night. The matron in the hospital wasn't so friendly. I'd lost all of the skin on one side of my body where I'd slid along the road, the wound was full of gravel. The matron got a bass scrubbing brush, covered it in Dettol and said 'this is going to hurt, you deserve it. Fek me she wasn't far wrong. I would like to say that I learnt my lesson but unfortunately I have driven twice well over the limit since, both times in my twenties, fortunately no accidents were involved. Nothing in the last 35 years though.
Well done for making such an open and uncompromising confession, mate. I suspect that there are a few of us who have driven when we knew we should not have done. It isn’t only drinking. Tiredness and texting at the wheel are each bigger killers than drink driving.
Tiredness is a big one, particularly with motorway driving. Nowadays I stop and take about 40 minutes shuteye, it's amazing the difference it makes. My first wife used to put on her makeup whilst driving, I used to get so fekking angry with her, she would laugh about it. Texting is a no-no. Hands free are OK for incoming calls but out going calls should be banned. The hands free in my car allow me to scroll through my contacts but it is so so distracting, fekking dangerous. I never use it. If I need to make a call I stop. Distraction is everything. A lot of people, including the authorities are so anti speeding. To me 70 mph with full attention is less dangerous than 30 mph with 10% attention. Modern cars can stop so quickly that I think too much is made about speed, not enough about tailgating, phones/text and any other distracting activity drivers get up to.
It's the exact polar opposite of PC culture, because it's the Daily Mail fire & pitchfork mob demanding that an example be made out of Lloris because something something THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - yet if the boot was on the other foot and they were the ones pulled over for driving while sloshed they'd be on their high horse creating about the nanny state or how the police should be arresting "real criminals"
While I'm totally against drink driving it has always seemed illogical to me that being too drunk to understand that you are drunk has not been tried as a defence.
My take is this... I think driving offences are treated so leniently it's a joke. Not just drink driving but speeding in built up areas, tailgating, middle lane driving etc, etc but imho drink driving is ****ing outrageous. It is pure luck that he did not injure, maim or kill someone or himself. Lloris' ban and £50,ooo fine is lenient in my opinion especially considering how rich he is. But my hate of this type of offence is not the issue. if Lloris had not been lucky and had actually crashed or hurt someone he'd probably have been jailed like Tony Adams was. Jailing him would have been treating him more harshly than others whohave done the same thing. He was tried, accepted his guilt, did not try excuse his behaviour and has apologised to everyone publicly. He has been fined £250,000 by spurs (2 weeks wages) on top of the court fine and appears to have offered to resign the captaincy. There has to be a point where people are punished and the allowed to make amends. There comes a point where those who say they are seeking justice are simply seeking vengeance...like it or not Lloris got the legally correct sentence and as he appears to be genuinely remorseful then in my opinion he should be allowed to resume his life. I agree with the decision to allow him to remain club captain but I pwould not have slagged the club off if they had taken it off him. I try to be a kind person and have worked in "caring professions" since I was 17...but I used to be a very damaged and unpleasant youngster and if it weren't for one or two people allowing me to move on there is no knowing what kind of animal I may have become...so my over riding view is that people can change and should be given a chance to prove they have learned from their stupid **** ups.
Driving is the last thing I'd want to do after drinking. What a load of hassle - which can only get worse if you crash or get stopped by the police. Why take the risk? Isn't it easier at the end of the night to sit in the back of a taxi and let someone else do the driving?
I’m a bit bemused to some people’s view on drink driving after reading these comments tbh. Yes we all make mistakes but he’s a multi millionaire who is captain of his club and country and he’s 31 years old. For him to drive whilst twice over the limit is unforgivable and it’s a miracle he didn’t hurt himself or anyone else. No excuses.
Slightly weird interview with Lloris which references his charge: https://www.skysports.com/watch/vid...1568081/lloris-ive-moved-on-from-drink-charge He seems rather fragile or something. Can't quite place my finger on it. Really undecided about the whole interview.
When you live long enough with your eyes and ears open you will see society change and adopt different attitudes and opinions. When I was young there were a lot less drivers on the road, cars were not as safe (by a long way) and drink driving was frowned upon but quite common and not illegal as such. Many would say they were a better driver when drunk, which even then was considered a fairly stupid comment but people believed it. Since those times cars have improved hugely to the extent that they can tolerate being driven badly with little understanding of the requirements of aero dynamics. IMO opinion the standard of driving has fallen since I was young but is made up for by this vast improvement in braking, handling and power in modern cars. People get very worked up by drink drivers and jump up and down which is fair enough, but there is little such emotion about tailgating which seems to be accepted as the norm. I am constantly trying to find my space on motorways (I drive on average 20,000 miles a year and have done for 50 years) I am not a slow driver at all, my car is over 200 bhp The greatest risk as far as I am concerned is by people driving too close to the car in front and the authorities only pay lip service to it IMO.
Completely agree Spurf. Living here in Oz and specifically in Sydney it has been documented that outside of major capital cities around the world we have some of the worst drivers on the planet! The current generation are impatient and don't know what defensive driving is.
