Article: Best vs Carroll | Football, Newcastle

When Carroll was at Newcastle I thought he was the complete centre forward tbh. Could do everything, had more pace than people gave him credit for, could score all kinds of goals, is a presence, defends from corners, beast in the aire, sets up goals, great left foot and right not too bad, has strength and played with passion.

Just at Liverpool I don't think he is settled. I honestly believe he still wishes he played for us

 

If you knew anything about stats you friggin tool you would know how they can be manipulated to say whatever you want. As for Rock bottom IQ what have you ever ****ing done?

 

Some people on this website I swear.

I'm not trying to claim that Best is better than Carroll. It's just as the MEANINGFUL statistics show in-terms of goals, there's not as much difference as you might think when it comes to comparing the almighty Carroll too the '****' Leon Best.

 

Yes but Best has more pace, movement and AGILITY. Plus look at what Chappaz just presented.

Also Best has REPRESENTED IRELAND SEVEN ****ING TIMES...

 

Ludicrous comment IMO

Carroll is quicker and has the ability to take on players, his passing is very tidy and can even play very decent long balls, we seen a couple of them when he played for us.

Carroll has the ability to strike from long range, not sure I've even seen Best attempt anything like that.

He is fantastic in the air when on form and can literally outmuscle any defender to win the ball.

When he played for us he had the mentality about him that you knew he would break his neck to win the ball or keep the ball, I dont see that from Best, hes a canny player but he doesnt chase things down and looks lost and lazy at times.

 

I can feel an argument coming up here!

Best is a good 2nd or 3rd striker for a club aiming for Europe. In a perfect world where FMA and DL were people who did what the fans wanted with the funds we have - we would have Roux and Cisse (realistically) and then Best.

 

Most assists 2010-2011 season, NUFC:

Joey Barton - 9
Shola Ameobi - 6
Andy Carroll - 6 (don't know how many are for Newcastle and how many Liverpool, can assume most are for Newcastle)
Jonas Gutierrez - 5
Peter Lovenkrands - 5
Jose Enrique - 4
Mike Williamson - 3
Kevin Nolan - 2
Leon Best - 1
Danny Guthrie - 1
Nile Ranger - 1
Wayne Routledge - 1
Steven Taylor - 1
Ryan Taylor - 1
Cheik Tiote - 1
Xisco - 1

 

Wow, you really are thick as pig ****.

Realised how much of a mong you are.

 

OK I'm NOT SAYING BEST IS BETTER THAN CARROLL. I'm just saying to all the Best haters that what Chappaz just presented here shows that even ****ing ''Championship class'' Leon ****ing Best is actually on par with Carroll in the goalscoring stakes. Carroll ****s all ove Best in terms of being a ST though! Better in the air, has defenders actually worried and his work-rate was amazing!

 

Theyre all for us i think


but i'd be interested to know how many of those Nolan scored

 

look at my name!!

 

"Carroll scored 11 goals and made 6 assists, finding the net against the likes of Arsenal, Chelsea and Man City and confirming his prowess as a top-class Premier League forward."

You are right though apart from the one that I recall from the Liverpool game for Nolan that made it 2-1 I cant think of others off the top of my head, but you would think at least a couple of them would have got us some points and changed the ratio considerably.

Kudos to anyone who can remember all of his assists?

 

Chappaz you are a ****ing tool and throwing stats at things never proves anything. Ever learnt anything about statistics?

 

You'd be right but hes not trying to compare all round center-forward play, just the goal scoring

 

You claimed that Best had more to his game than Carroll and that's what I commented on because in my opinion its simply not true. But each to their own

I actually think hes a canny striker but for some reason I just cant see him cutting it, bear in mind that 5 of the 8 goals hes scored have been in just 2 matches and it paints a slightly ****ter picture.

I would definitely have him starting though, him and Ba as I think those guys are the best we have at the moment, with the odd bit of Sammy thrown into the mix

 

To be fair Best played well against fulham. He gave their defenders a torid time. He looks like he might be a confidence player so lets give him the benefit of the doubt. If he scores a goal against QPR and we win then I am thinking he might just be the answer with our creative midfield and then we will have ben arfa back soon.

Thiery Henry was a winger before joining Arsenal and look how he turned out. Maybe (Im hoping) Ben Arfa goes the same way. Hes technically quite the same type of player as Henry in ter,s of skill.

So maybe come January we may be ok!

 

I'm not working that out

Interesting to note we've 'lost' 22 assists. Hopefully Cabaye, Ben Arfa, Marveaux and Obertan can get some

 

Ok heres some stats, last two seasons for us

Leon Best 24 apps.......... 6 goals

Andy Carroll 62 appearances 30 goals.........

????

 

Agree.

 

The thing is with Best if we're all being completely honest hes not going to be one of those strikers who creates chances or works hard to run around and score goals, so its of absolute importance that our midfield are gelled and on song this season, because I think if our creativity is great then he will score, if its not it could be a long, long season.

Basically everything rests on the midfield and the sooner HBA is sorted the better!