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Discussion in 'Watford' started by Leo, Aug 31, 2014.

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  1. superhorns

    superhorns Well-Known Member

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    I suppose you can only take in a little information at any one time. I will try to slow down to your pace.
     
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    So we should forget the high unemployment, runaway national debt and France often voted as containing the most depressed by nation. It is quite easy to improve public services by borrowing loads to pass onto future generations. A selfish policy in my books.
    It is quite easy to live in France as long as you are not looking for a job or want to start a business.
     
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    I had thought that your comments were supposed to be light hearted and funny, but you cannot believe some of what you wrote. Or did you?
     
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    It is quite easy to be funny about lightweights like Macron but the poverty caused by the EU in Southern Europe is too serious.
     
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    So if the poverty is serious in Southern Europe, why are you worried? You are only concerned about the UK and if a bad deal will cost you as a person. Time to stop being concerned about others when your main worry is that you might not get the medicines to keep you alive unless the country starts to stockpile them. Do I see the same sort of poverty in the northern parts of Europe that exist in the UK? No, but their economies are more advanced than those down south, something that is being worked upon to level things out. The great divide is becoming more apparent between the north and south of the UK. As cologne said earlier, there is a big difference in life expectancy between the north and south of the UK.
     
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    Why should I not be concerned about suffering of others? You obviously know nothing about me. Those in the Northern EU countries, like yourself, care very little about the extreme austerity imposed by Brussels yet whinge when a little is sensibly used in the UK, complete double standards.

    Nobody is forcing many in parts of the North to have a rubbish diet and smoke. There is a general lack of personal responsibility.
     
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    Fractal wrongness is the state of being wrong at every conceivable scale of resolution. That is, from a distance, a fractally wrong person's worldview is incorrect; and furthermore, if you zoom in on any small part of that person's worldview, that part is just as wrong as the whole worldview. (Thanks to Rational Wiki)
     
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    Does that mean you disagree with my views. :emoticon-0105-wink: Perhaps there is still hope and envy will not totally consume you.
     
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    There are people I know on here and others I don't. What I do see is a consistency of posts from those who want to see a political system that is fair to the majority, not a small part of the community. Some of the poorest in the UK have suffered from extreme austerity, and now you can have the extreme withdrawal of services as seen in Northants when that fails. That is a county that followed extreme party dogma, and is now bankrupt. If you wish I can give you all the details. Cooperation between countries to help the poorer is better than withdrawing from the system because at some point those countries will become your customers.
     
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    The EU has been a prime example of creating policies which primarily benefits Germany France and the Benelux countries at the expense of Southern countries. Many like Greece have endured years of extreme austerity likely to last decades more. This is political dogma at its worse.

    The UK rightly sees the Conservatives as the only political party to be trusted with the economy. A UK monthly surplus has been posted for the first time in many years testament to the vital control on spending, much wasted on Labour's PFI schemes.
     
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    No, it just means that you are totally wrong about what I actually think in every conceivable way. Fractal wrongness 101.

    How can you be so obtuse, is it deliberate? That's a rhetorical question, btw. :emoticon-0160-movie :emoticon-0126-nerd:
     
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    And who is paying? Is it your hero's such as Moggy, or the people who have had their basic services withdrawn as in Northants?
     
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    Do you think that Germany, France, and the Benelux countries can outvote all the rest SH ?
     
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    That’s why Momentum’s membership is growing and the Tory membership is falling through the floor (and we all know where that’s heading - a chance to meet up with the Wicked Witch herself, perhaps).
     
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    You seem to put your country before yourself? What’s wrong with you? ;)
     
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    I put it to you again. Do you believe in the basic tenet of ‘Innocent until proven guilty’?
    Or would you just string ‘em up in the streets? (Moggy wouldn’t approve - not after what happened to his pal Benito)
     
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    We have agreed about Tory-Lite Blair’s use of PFI. But he did record for several years the lowest cost of supporting the national debt in over 100 years - which has risen to £1.78 trillion under Terroriser May. Scotland’s debt, btw, is £15 billion (where is my pal BB when I need him? #sigh).
     
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    Your question seemed paradoxical given you are a Tory, but then I realised that you are concerned for the suffering of your fellow British northerners. It must be that, otherwise it would seem you were displaying “double standards” - heaven forfend. ;)
     
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    Scotland's debt is 9.7% of Scottish GDP, the UK overall is a much lower 4.9%. The SNP are clueless, they just spend borrowed money, an idea taken from the equally clueless Labour Party.
     
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    We should be stockpiling crates of brown ale and fried mars bars to help our Northern cousins survive Brexit. :emoticon-0102-bigsm
     
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