agree they are scared (especially bankers) but no smoke without fire with all this Jewish stuff I believe mate.
What makes you so certain ? A hunch ? Your opinion ? Your superior intellect ? Don’t you realise Willy it’s people like yourself that are strengthening ‘leave’ voters views with your pious ‘I know better than you’ attitude. You do your side a big disservice.
Sorry mate, I just have to disagree with you for the reasons already mentioned. We ain’t gonna change each other’s minds.
I am not denying that they may have suggested willingness to do trade deals, but you don't just click your fingers and get it done. Donald (America First) Trump is busy putting up tariffs right left and centre - that one will be straightforward. India want freedom of movement - bring it on. China? - piece of piss. Yes, we will still trade with Europe, but it will be a lot more difficult and less beneficial, plus we will lose all the deals that we currently have (via the EU) with non-EU countries.
Sort of agree re trump as I heard some American bloke who was saying Trump will only want a deal that benefits the US and will take advantage of the UK especially if desperate May is still in power. However, the program I watched on SKY news recently showed how the UK had fab specialists in certain industries and they were all confident that work from the EU and non-EU was increasing and not decreasing like some want us to believe.
OK - if I'm so dumb and you're not - tell me how what I have said doesn't make most sense. The question didn't make ANY reference to leaving without arrangements to leave being in place. It was a simple yes/no question, so inferring that 'leave' meant just one thing is crazy. And yet when I point this out, I'm being 'pious'? 'Stay' DID mean just one thing - surely not even you can argue against that. Off you go. I'm listening. And if your answer isn't completely convincing, I'll be sure and share my opinion as to why.
Where in any of my posts have I said you are dumb ? I’ve said you are pious and I’ve said you are quite condescending (as it comes over in your last paragraph)...I’ve even called you a liar (in not so many words) about your ‘protest’ against the Saudis that I still don’t believe you went on......but I’ve never called you dumb.
So no answer to my question? Seriously mate, I couldn’t care less what you think of me, as long as you’re not personally insulting. But please answer the question.
Leave meant leave......stay meant stay.......we’re leaving....get over it. And could you answer my question about your Saudi protest.....where was it ?
depends what Merkel/Juncker wants. Just look at Trump and China. They've decided to have a trade war and whoever is selling to each other will be hit.
Exactly. I shouldn't be surprised, I've yet to find any Leave voter that can clearly and honestly explain why they voted Leave and what they expected Leave to look like. Two years down the line, it's still a complete mess. However, as long as they think they can blame Remain voters somehow, I guess they don't really mind. It's a blame game now, and all a bit sad.
I didn't say that you should not have voting rights on this - just that we London is only 2 hours from Brussels by train Goldie Seriously though the problem may be people not coming to England - nobody has as yet explained how the UK. will take control of it's borders (it does anyway) without pissing off the 14 million EU tourists who visit London every year - people who just come, spend their money, and then go. The number of such visits being around 40 times the number who come looking to remain in the country. Are you going to start issuing visas, and entry stamps, when most people within the EU. don't carry a passport - just an ID card ? Similarly I have not heard from any Brexiter exactly how Britain is going to increase it's sovereignty after Brexit, yet, at the same time go running after TTIP style deals with the rest of the World, and making itself 'attractive' for business ie. turning the country into a bargain basement society - not much 'sovereignty' in that model I'm afraid.
Well I'm also working, however, in order to satisfy your curiosity, my attendance at a London protest against Saudi was about 10 or 11 years ago, when the King was on a royal visit. There was a focus on human rights and arms sales at the time, and it served both purposes. I was somewhere near Horseguards. If you want me to be more specific, I'll need to google actual dates. I've been on others, but not one about China directly (hence my 'as I recall' in the earlier post that made you call me a liar. Still waiting for that back-track, by the way)
I'm not sure that's really an argument for saying we should be part of the Schengan. Millions of tourists visit Thailand etc etc and that isn't an issue for that. We would just need to increase our border control workforce. I would expect there to potentially be an impact on the number of visitors though depending how prohibitive border control is and how alienated EU people feel
