Jack Wilshere Officially Leaving Arsenal

Wilshere had 2 good games last season. Chelsea and one Europa game. The writing has been on the wall for time. Sentimentality has stopped a lot of us from accepting this. Jack gives the ball away all the time. Offered little of late going forward and defensively. Always played himself into trouble of either losing the ball or getting hurt.

Our defence is not compatible with Jack style of play in my opinion. I prefer to have a more conservative/steady Elneny to be honest. Hopefully the likes of Torreira strengthens us in midfield.

 

Like I've said before - you cant use judge Wilshere like this. When you consider he had multiple knee and ankle ligament tears. Which take literally years to heal. (some like ACL/MCL/PCL/Achillies may never heal without surgery and recovery is a lengthy process)
I recently tore my Meniscus and have a grade 1 ACL injury
When you consider all that - what percentage of Wilshere's games for Arsenal was he 100%? I'm guessing less than 20% of the time.

In terms of ability and talent - he is WAY above Elneny. He's a similar level of talent to Ramsey.

Well I agree with that. I dont think Emery would have offered Elneny a new contract either.

I think central midfield is the position where games against the bigger sides are won and lost. (Particularly in the Champions League)
And it concerns me that we are filling up the squad with players that are not capable of playing at higher level than where we currently are.
Xhaka concerns me too not just Elneny - he has ability but its too often he has very little impact on the game.

I guess that's why I'm sad to see Wilshere go - firstly he's an Arsenal lad and secondly I think the potential for big improvement is there. I cant say that for several players in this squad.

 

Pity his injuries hampered his progress, but it is a good thing that the club are now getting ruthless when it comes to making these type of decisions. Obviously his injury history means he's not reliable. He's talent or ability is not the issue, it's he's reliability. Of course there is room for improvement for Jack but he's got to be fit to do that.

Good decision by the club and Emery. I really hope Torreira is the right answer.

 

I understand he had lengthy injury problems, but what I'm saying is how much longer were we meant to wait for him to come good? We can't keep paying his wages and keeping him in the team in the hope he may be the player he was expected to be. He played nearly 40 games last season. Prior to that, he had an almost injury-free season at Bournemouth. In the last two seasons, he looked like a decent Premier League level midfielder, but not much else above that.

What are we supposed to judge Wilshere by? Look at his statistics in every aspect of the game. They will tell you he didn't win many tackles, he didn't win many aerial duels, he didn't score many goals, he didn't create loads of chances, his shooting wasn't good either. His dribbling and passing statistics were decent, as was his ability in drawing fouls. However, as I explained to you before - compare them to any top-level midfielder in Europe and it still isn't close to that level.

Here's another interesting statistic from last season - in the Premier League, Elneny and Wilshere had the same amount of key passes per game [source: Whoscored.com]. Wilshere started one more game than Elneny, too.

For all the stick you're giving Elneny about being useless and not passing forwards, these numbers really doesn't really paint Wilshere in a good light.

I actually agree with you here - but talent alone isn't enough to be given a divine right to a starting berth.

Again, I find myself agreeing with you . Wasn't too pleased that Xhaka was given a contract extension. Felt like he has more to prove before he gets rewarded with a new deal.

I do understand why people are upset - I am too (albeit for different reasons to you).

However, the club did want to keep him. They just couldn't guarantee him a spot in the starting 11 (and rightly so I may add). Wilshere didn't seem to be willing to fight for his place in the team, so there was only one way things were going to end.

 

As you know I don't subscribe to some mysterious talent ability, or lack thereof that somehow exists but doesn't manifest itself in any way. If nothing that Jack Wilshere does on the field makes him better than Elneny then he isn't better than Elneny, however flashy he may look on the ball. If he drives into space looking like a star and then loses it, he isn't any better than Elneny just running normally and then completing a pass.

Wilshere's problems are that he does nothing well enough to make up for his deficiencies. He isn't fast, he doesn't get many assists, he isn't good in the air, his work-rate is average, he is poor defensively, he doesn't score many goals, his ball retention is average and so on and so on.

You cant analyse all that and then come to the conclusion that somehow he is talented. I think he will struggle to get a game with any team in the top half.

 

Has he been given enough opportunities to succeed at Arsenal? Yes.

Has he performed at any consistent level when he has been given those opportunities? No

He's been given more chances than any other player at our club but sadly he hasn't been up to scratch. We are a top side that needs players to perform at a consistently high level and he isn't one of those. We've been bitten one too many times in the past persevering with players that were injury prone or not at the required level. We can't afford to do that now, especially when the PL is at it's most competitive to date.

 

^^^ Exactly this

 

Jack Wilshere tipped to finalise switch to Fenerbahce next week
https://talksport.com/football/392188/arsenal-transfer-jack-wilshere-fenerbahce/

Interesting if this is true. Good that he's willing to go abroad to test himself, but what about the Spanish/Italian club rumours? Also, no one in for him in the PL?

 

I'm not sure 'willing to go abroad to test himself' has much to do with it. It's his job, he needs to earn a living and he needs to find an employer and he's struggling. There don't seem to be many that want to employ him because, let's face it, he's a big stinking turd.

 

Yes he's been hyped up to high heaven, but i reckon he could get into a bottom to mid table PL team.

 

He's not struggling. It's just Fenerbace and Galatasary are paying their big signings crazy wages these days.I guarantee he will earn way more than he would have got at West Ham or Everton. I think RVP was on £240,000 a week there.

Go to Turkey earn a ton of money - possibly play in the Champions League.