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Roland Selling Up?

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by SuperChrissyisfantasticPardswasatrocious, Feb 13, 2014.

  1. CAFC'sBestInterests

    CAFC'sBestInterests Well-Known Member

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    I get all that and many successful Clubs have to face this as well, but many of these Clubs hold onto their talent longer than we've ever done.
     
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  2. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    Agreed.
     
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    On the other hand Amos may return?
    https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/b...erformer-to-beat-sunderland-to-his-signature/
     
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  5. Ken Shabby

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    Like me :emoticon-0100-smile
     
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  6. ForestHillBilly

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    Yep, I'm a sucker for ITK nonsense too. Flip-flopped more times than Old Reamsy. I'm told meditation and yoga are worth trying.
     
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    Add FORD to the long list of pillocks.

    1pm came and went without a takeover press conference.

    Meanwhile, shy and retiring James Seed is at the Chelsea Flower show ...
     
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  8. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    You might bump into him!

    Mr van Gerwen, the man who hates the world.
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  9. DickPlumb

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    The Takeover will happen, I am sure of it, It is just a matter of being patient.There are dicks everywhere, whether they post on CL,ITTV or elsewhere. I don't know why people like FORD post what they do but they do. I am not going to get angry with him or others.

    What James Seed being at the Chelsea Flower Show has got to do with anything, I don't know.

    He posted about a meeting with someone connected to the Takeover. Whether I like him or not is immaterial, it makes interesting reading.

    All this anger is a waste of time and energy.
     
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  10. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    But it does give Mr van Gerwen a chance to hate more people.
     
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  11. lardiman

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    Agreed. Too much of this :mad: :headbang: for too long has ground us all down. Time now for some <peacedove> and <hug>
     
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  12. ForestHillBilly

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    And time for Roland to feck off
     
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  13. Smudger603

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    D28B3718-7FFB-48E9-ACFC-6BF049697349.jpeg deluded or what!
     
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  14. lardiman

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    A link to the article:

    http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/...rlton_to_Premier_League_if_fans_were_on_side/

    This News Shopper article may be misrepresenting what Roland Duchatelet was saying, or trying to say. I get the impression that he has said more than they have included in this piece, and there is the question of accuracy in translation.
    However - taking the article at face value - it appears to me to boil down to this;

    Duchatelet is saying that if Charlton fans had not begun protesting against his ownership when the Club was relegated to League One, he could have got us into the Premier League.

    Contrary to the spin of the article RD does not give a time scale for this. He has not said we would be in the Premier League now. Simply that he could have got us there.

    And RD does not say that protesting fans were to blame for the relegation. Just that the relegation was a 'big disaster' - an opinion many fans would probably agree with.

    His reference to balls being thrown onto the pitch needing to be explained to 20-25 year old players is presumably meant to be an example of the toxic atmosphere inside the Valley hindering the ability of the team to compete. Both sides of this argument have been thoroughly debated on all Charlton forums, and I don't think it is out of line to say that many fans broadly agree that a negative, toxic atmosphere during matches did not make matters any easier for the team.

    The references to 'lies' being told by ex-employees and people believing those lies because the Club did not dispute them seems a bit separate from anything which would have discouraged or confused or hampered the team on the pitch.
    Granted this came from a separate talk to the one RD has appearently given to the News Shopper. I guess it was a general observation, along the lines of the wider relationship between many fans and his administration being soured further by popular belief in these 'lies'.

    However, for Duchatelet to claim that he would have got Charlton into the Premier League (even eventually at some unspecified time in the future) had there been no protests, does seem far-fetched.

    There is only very scant evidence - some fans would argue none at all - to support such a claim.
    There have been virtually no protests this season, indeed the home supporters and our travelling fans gave Karl Robinson very solid support until almost his last game in charge, and then they backed Lee Bowyer 100%.

    Yet despite winning more games and accumulating 11 more points in League One than we managed last season, Charlton never got anywhere near an automatic promotion place and still fell short in the play-off semi-finals - the only team of the four to fail to score a goal in 180 minutes of football.

    Clearly Duchatelet decided a long time ago that his effort to get Charlton into the Premier League had run its course. Since the end of 2017 the Club has had no CEO and is also without several other key senior management figures.
    It seems unlikely that RD's decision to abandon his Premier League ambitions for Charlton was anything to do with lack of support from the fans, who as already mentioned have been overwhelmingly positive in their support for the team this season.
    Perhaps the low attendances have played a part - but RD has not mentioned that factor specifically in his quotes for this particular article.


    Here and now, I guess it does not matter anymore.
    These quotes from our outgoing owner are for me nothing more than an unedifying footnote to a period in our recent history which - for whatever reason - will be remembered for bringing division and further decline.

    What was done is done. Our future now lies in a different direction.
     
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  15. ForestHillBilly

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    Roland is talking complete rubbish. In the games where the protests took place our results were very very good. The protests took place because of the shocking way Roland's ownership was driving the club down. To suggest anything else is to rewrite history. He also lies when he says we stayed up with the foreign players he brought in. Jose Riga didn't play them, and he paid the price by getting sacked despite keeping us up. Roland can believe what he likes about his own genius, the fact is he has been a disaster for the club, his ramblings don't deserve any credence whatsoever.
     
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  16. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    Dushitelet has told porkies for the past four years, why are people listening to him now?!<doh>
     
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  17. lardiman

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    I don't think anybody is listening or believing (well, very few anyway).
    There is a thread on ITTV about these comments by Duchatelet, six or seven replies so far and nothing even close to any sympathy for him.

    Granted other members may add their opinions later, but the general impression I get right now is that pretty much everybody has had enough of this owner.
    It's far too late for anything he says to make any difference.
     
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  18. Smudger603

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    I’m a member on ittv and was grateful that he kept us afloat but it’s become very clear that he’s destroying the club we all love and needs to fuke off ASAP - he’s never had the love or understanding of the club and it’s history
     
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  19. The Elfsborg Sparrow

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    Although the bulk of ITTApologist including Ivor, go 100% against Charlton Life and their despair of the destruction since January 2014
     
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  20. CAFC'sBestInterests

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    Duchatelet's ego blocks the truth yet again...Nobody in the history of football has ever had any success employing the tactics he chose.

    Charlton fans who gave this loser any praise whatsoever need their head tested.

    #Deluded
     
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