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Roland Selling Up?

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  1. DickPlumb

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    Post from James Seed on CL.

    Apologies, you're correct, I had to clear up, and get the dishwasher on.....

    It also took longer to write than I expected. Gotta get it right!

    I hope you're not disappointed that there isn't more, or that I can't name a date. But my overall impressions are positive:

    https://jimmyseed.blogspot.co.uk/ (It's all there, but will add below as well):

    So here are my thoughts after sharing a beer with someone connected with the takeover of Charlton Athletic. He agreed that I can share this info, but asked that I don't reveal his identity before the club is sold. I know I've already mentioned that I knew someone connected to the Australian consortium, but this meeting could have been with a mutual acquaintance, or someone acting as an intermediary. Speculating on who the meeting was with might well lead to a drying up of info, so please don't.

    I really like what I heard yesterday evening. Our meeting lasted 45 minutes, I was holding a dinner party for my wife's birthday at 8pm, and I was more than late. I was supposed to be preparing the food!

    We should be meeting again soon (assuming my wife will let me), because my contact is very keen on seeing Jimmy Seed's memorabilia. He also asked for copy of his autobiography. (He actually nearly bit my hand off when I said I had a spare). What a change from the previous regime's attitude to the Club's history! The interest in Seed and the club's past was genuine, and very encouraging.

    We didn't discuss finance I'm afraid. I'm not sure this can be discussed until after the sale has gone through. I didn't want to push it. So I don't know what they're paying for the club, other than that there will be no add-ons after the sale has gone through.

    Interestingly, but not surprisingly, my contact has for months been inundated by emails from people asking about the takeover, but he is sorry he hasn't been able to answer any of them up to this point.

    In no particular order:

    1. They’re hoping, subject to approval from a couple of investors and the EFL, that the sale will happen next week. I think they might being a little optimistic with their estimate of the how long the EFL can take processing these fit and proper person tests, so an extra week or two might be on the cards? (Just guessing). But they're patient people.
    They believe it will happen, but that's all they would say on the matter.
    They say they're in this for the long haul, and it's already been a two year project, which so far has cost them a million Pounds. They mentioned a five year plan to get the club into the Premier League, which is their stated aim. The five year plan might include the previous two years ago, I'm not sure. They are interested in success. They have ambition. It's the Australian mentality when it comes to sport.

    2. He described Fulham as being the only other club in London they might have been interested in. Why? Because both clubs 'have great fans, and a great stadium', which they see as key. They appreciate that fans are the heart of the club, and pointed out how 'different' the ownership system is in England, compared to the fan ownership system in Australia. They seem very aware of the differences between the fans of Charlton, and the fans of some of our London 'rivals', and see that as a big positive. They respect the passion.

    3. They see they Australian system of 'Membership' as something they want to promote at Charlton. In Australia clubs have 'memberships' into the high tens of thousands - Essendon have just topped the 70,000 mark, for example. (Click here to read more.) How that might translate to how Charlton is run and owned remains to be seen, but I believe they see season ticket holders as the current 'members'. My contact was very pleased to hear that many people are waiting until new owners are in place to renew their season tickets. I was surprised they didn't know that already!

    4. The reason for all the delays hasn't actually been to do with Roland Duchâtelet dragging his feet. Due diligence has been massively complicated by the fact that RD didn't actually complete proper due diligence himself when he bought the club, because of the circumstances of the sale. The complications they have encountered have apparently been a legacy of the previous Tony Jimenez and Michael Slater regime. I can't comment on their feelings about Roland Duchâtelet. Apparently RD mentioned how powerful the fans are at Charlton, something he hadn't experienced before. I think they see this as a positive.

    5. They are buying the club, lock, stock and barrel. Roland wants to sell, and isn’t looking to hang on to any assets, Sparrows Lane for example - and isn’t looking for and sell-on deals vis a vis player sales. My source hasn't met with Duchâtelet, but has been dealing with his representatives. It's has been a very complicated process, but there has been no dragging of feet.

    6. It was never the intention to make Charlton a kind of nursery club for Australian footballers. If any Australian footballers sign for Charlton it will only be because they are capable of playing at the appropriate level or higher.
    They’re more interested in getting Australians at home, and the Australian community in London, to support the team. They will be very vigorously promoting the club to the Australian community. I can only speculate that if there were any truly top class Australian footballers playing for Charlton, that would only help with that process.

    7. They are looking to appoint a manager ASAP. My source spoke to Lee Bowyer yesterday, and he is being considered for the job. They have approached Chris Powell's people in an attempt to see if he is available as well. Other managers may also be considered, but only experienced ones. Mr Kewell isn't on the list apparently. They are aware that the transfer window is open.

    8. They weren't too worried that we failed to win promotion. Again, because they see this as a long term project, not an immediate bid for glory.

    9. They're genuinely looking forward to establishing contact with groups and trusts connected with Charlton, including CAST and the Community Trust if and when the sale has been completed.

    There was probably more, and if I remember any of it I'll post here.

    If anything comes up at our next meeting I'll also post it here.

    Would like to take him to visit the Museum. I don't suppose anyone on here might be available to help with that ;-)
     
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  2. ForestHillBilly

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    Things are looking good now. However there's many a slip etc.
     
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    I've heard that an Australian company Echidna Acquisitions has been registered at Companies House in readiness for the takeover.

    There are still lots of rumours flying about.
     
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    James Seed's post looks like the real McCoy, unlike a lot of ITK stuff which you can take with a pinch of salt. I've changed my mind now, and don't expect Roland to own Charlton much longer.
     
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    I’ve had a few exchanges over the months with Dutton, the guy is a prick.

    By his own admission he supported Millwall for 60 years then decided to cash in on his family name.

    Desperate to get in with the “in crowd” as he sees it on CL - witness his embarrassing fawning at every opportunity towards Ben Hayes.

    He has already boasted that his alleged contact is Gerard Murphy, so why now post please don’t mention him <laugh>

    Everitt’s very quiet on their embarrassing takeover thread ...stand by for

    “I heard that as well”
     
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    Ffs Mr van Gerwen, that's three posters in one foul swoop you have slaughtered<applause>
     
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    It's FELL SWOOP. The expression dates back to Shakespears time.
    Royston I don't have to like James Seed. The information is very useful and came from Gerard Murphy, so is closer to the truth than anything we have heard about the takeover.
     
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    A couple of interesting comments, including one from the only non WUM who actually knows anything...David Smith.

    Both suggest that the Aussies haven't got the finances.

    Hence the interminable delays and wrangling, the very public displays by Andrew Muir at the Play offs, designed to force Duchatelet's hand, the apparent quibbling about splitting the club's asset base...and the suggestion of a share's issue to raise capital.

    Everyone knows that a post-Duchatelet Charlton is not worth £40m, but if this guy really is awash with Aussie dollars as it claimed, wouldn't he just pay it after 12 months of farce, or up his bid to something closer ?
     
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    Everything that's supposedly happened with this takeover enforces this view...Said as much after the last transfer window. Money men would've been here already with a statement of intent, they would've lifted morale in one foul swoop simply by not being RD, and ultimately given us the 2/3 players we desperately needed to get us out of this poxy league...

    Seed is saying they 'weren't too worried that we failed to win promotion', because they see this as a long term project, not an immediate bid for glory'...<doh> That's up there with Slater's 'Evolution not Revolution' quote, and we now all know why that group invested in Charlton.
     
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    "There may be trouble ahead".
     
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    Nobody has yet been able to get an answer to the obvious question - why is a man (Muir) apparently so wealthy on paper, seemingly having such trouble raising the finance to buy Charlton ?

    In DS’s own words, 6 of the 7 ex Board with a charge on the club haven’t been approached by Muir. The 7th is Murray, who as we all know has got his own agenda (himself).
     
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    ]@RichCawleySLP

    Sunderland takeover set to go through at start of this week. #cafc bid from Andrew Muir's consortium is next in line for EFL approval. Getting closer.
     
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    Do we know that he has had trouble raising the finance?. Maybe he has, or maybe Roland has been asking too much, and he now realises he won't get what he wants. I suspect there has been a compromise. Not counting any chickens though.
    BTW, will Roman Abramovic have to resit the Fit and Proper Persons test if it is proved that he's been money-laundering through Chelsea? Wouldn't that be fun?
     
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    Sunderland takeover is complete. Ellis Short has written off the debt. There shouldn't be any obstacles to ours now, if young Mr Seed is relaying accurate information.
     
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    As I understand it finances are part of the fit and proper rule... but is the fit and proper checking by the EFL fit and proper?
     
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    the recent loyalty points scheme launched is a aussie idea which suggests both parties can see this going through sometime soon.

    it wouldnt surprise me if they have staff lined up to take key roles and some scouting already done.
     
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    Organisation.

    The first time we have seen this since January 2014.
     
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