Christ we're exaggerating this a bit aren't we. If people are taking their kids to play in the fountains on a sunny day that's not a bad thing. Yeah they might be chavvy but they could be doing worse things. The drugged up beggars are a blight, but not a new one. Trying to spin a narrative where the City is **** now because 2017 has been and gone, is piss poor.
The question is, why is nothing is being done about it? There's pretty much no police presence in the city centre unless there's a major incident and they turn up in cars. There's powers available to the Council and the police, they just need to be implemented, as they did with these rules for Derby city centre late last year (anyone breaching these rules was arrested or given a dispersal order)... No person shall ingest, inhale, inject, smoke or otherwise use intoxicating substances in a public space, excluding alcohol, tobacco or prescription medicines. Intoxicating substances are psychoactive substances with the capacity to stimulate or depress a person's central nervous system and are referred to as New Psychoactive Substances (NPS). No person shall beg (using either active or passive methods of obtaining alms) or ask members of the public for money in a public place. No person shall consume alcohol in a public place (excluding licensed premises) in a manner which causes a nuisance or annoyance to other persons in the locality. No person shall urinate or defecate in a public place (excluding public toilets). No person shall loiter in a public place, either as an individual or in a group, if they are causing or likely to cause anti-social behaviour. If asked to disperse by a police constable, police community support officer (PCSO) or an authorised officer of the council, that person must not return to the public place for a period of 24 hours. No person shall use a skateboard, scooter or bicycle in a public place in a manner which causes a nuisance or annoyance to other persons in the locality (Area 1 only - within the inner ring road).
Aren't they basically the rules everywhere? Obviously not enforced well enough but most of it seems like obviously illegal stuff.
Public Spaces Protection Orders were only introduced fairly recently, under the ‘Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Act 2014’, to deal with these sort of issues, but a lot of councils/police forces simply don't use them. I think some are nervous about them, as they specifically can't be used to just shift homeless people off the streets and the police particularly are worried that by shifting beggars, they'll be accused of just shifting homeless people, but doing nothing is obviously the worst possible option.
100% agree Lambo. This week in the Driff Times, front page article about the derelict cattle market in the town. Been derelict now for decades, with Tesco (I believe) sitting on this and loads of other disused land in the town. The article reported on tables & chairs having been set up in the cattle market by drug users, with hundreds of discarded used needles & stuff. The public have been asking for years for something to be done with these derelict areas. The police must know what's been going on in there for years, and the council sit by too. Under-resourced, or simply turn a blind eye? The system isn't working. It really shouldn't be difficult to sort such things. Derby type approach, and with zero tolerance.
The shortlist for the prestigious Art Fund Museum of the Year award for 2018 has been revealed. The five finalists, announced during a special edition of Front Row, are: Brooklands Museum, Weybridge Ferens Art Gallery, Hull Glasgow Women's Library Tate St Ives The Postal Museum, London The winning museum will be announced at the V&A London on Tuesday 5 July 2018, with the recipient receiving a £100,000 prize and the other shortlisted museums receiving £10,000 each in recognition of their achievements.
This thing about Hull now being 'flat' after C.o.C, does this mean that it has gone back to what it was in the years previous to 2017? If truth be told Hull City centre has gone downhill since the demise of the many choices of entertainment that there used to be. L.A.'s demise I have never fathomed out, this venue still had a loyal following, but people went round the town before ending up in L.A.'s. Tower had it's own fans, Baileys was a big loss, and many other well known clubs just seem to vanish. Yes things change but for so many popular venues to suddenly not be trading when still being popular has now lead to a city centre that is not only dead but is well and truly buried. Although, oddly enough, my venture into the city centre during an afternoon 'session' found a healthy atmosphere around Whitefriargate, don't know if it carries on into the evening, doubt it. But things can still make a difference, Sesh, the Gin thing and who know the new Venue may drum up some business, but nothing will bring back the heaving masses enjoying a good night out nearly every day of the week as there are no incentives to go in the first place.
If they were still popular, they wouldn’t have shut. Fact is, the yoof don’t seem to want to go clubbing much nowadays.
As one of the yoof in those days we only went clubbing because the pubs shut at 11pm. The extended licencing hours killed the club's. Queuing for half an hour and paying to get in was made obsolete overnight when the bars in the old town stayed open till 2am with their own djs on.
I went to Hull Truck on Wednesday for 'Whisky Galore'. Have to say it felt a bit flat. Seemed to be all scene setting and then little actually happening. The most exciting part was the fire alarm as the second half started. It seems it was caused by excessive smoke from the smoke machine.
I think OLM that along with many things these days, the internet is disrupting the old way of things, shopping is the biggest evident one, but hardly anyone buys records, what a quaint word these days. as I write this I am listening to Spotify. The likes of Netflix are altering viewing habits and I'm not sure which area of the old life are not suffering because of the internet. And 'Yoof' as you say, are the biggest movers of this new way of things, nothing seems to get done without mobile something or other, I know through my grandchildren that I am wasting my breath even mentioning the 'old days' as its so alien to the, 'what?' is a constant refrain. The whole L.A. thing still baffles me though, the place was pillaged for its sound system and transported to Birmingham if I remember right, most odd.
I'll bite BCC. L.A.'s was a night club formerly known as Mecca, Locarno and in later years Tiffany's, it was a major dance hall and I first went on a Saturday morning as a 12/13 year old dancing to the likes of the Dave Clark Five Bits and Pieces, Del Shannon Little Town Flirt and other memorable songs to me from that era, well for me they were. The Saturday morning thing was from 10am until midday, then chuck out time, which took an age, before the more 'adult' clientele started their afternoon session. The main difference of course that these 'adult' clientele had had a sherbet or two and so the occasional scuffle broke out. It didn't appeal to me when I was old enough, nor Monday nights. Many groups appeared and even Pete Waterhouse had his show broadcast from there in the 80's I think, with Michaela Strachan? The popularity of the place meant that queues often formed and as people made their way over from Spencer's Arms, ok Circus Circus, there was the odd scuffle as some drunk tried to get in without queuing. Wednesday night was known as Grab a Granny night, as older women used to swarm to the place, by that I mean those usually married, but not always and over the age of 25. I think a lot of people of all ages have many affectionate memories of the place, I certainly do from 1963 onwards and there has been nothing like it since in Hull, it was THE place at one time. Well that is my take on the place, any inaccuracies will not doubt be pointed out to me.
