Match Day Thread 2017/18 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

I understand that's the whole point of being a 'fan'

Of course it might be different for you ManU fans

 

Fans don't sack managers, owners do that

 

Roy Hodgson and David Moyes might disagree with that comment.

 

tbh I can't agree with Diego or this. look at every Utd game thry take a lead in.

players with fear would start to play leading by 2 goals and cut loose.

they dont. look at swansea. 2-0 up game is shut down totally. emphasis is on defence.

if ever there was a chance to destroy a side by 5 or 6 that was it. everyone from fans to players would go home feeling good.

this cannot and should not be laid at players feet.

 

bar Ethan Hamilton, also quite the looker


I 'member when when UTD beat us to Phil Jones and the gloating that followed. Pogba is Balotelli reinvented
#memberberries

 

Garth Crooks' team of the week: Aguero, Salah, Kane, De Bruyne, Van Dijk

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‘I know how to win – but I don’t play,’ says José Mourinho after United defeat

Apparently you don't coach either

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...o-manchester-united-west-brom-manchester-city

#meltdown

 

Depends how far you go in the CL. If you aren't competing for the PL there are #noexcuses for not getting to at least the semis.

 

Interesting from Diego. I watched the game yesterday and to some point I understand what he's saying but also don't understand.

They played what was a sort of 433
Matic as the holding player but Herrera also stayed very deep, so was that intentional? If so then Pogba needed to pick passes from the middle looking left and right and linking the play. He remained very much on the left though. So was it Herrera who should be higher or Pogba more central?
Pogba was removed early so maybe he wasn't listening which would mean 2 deep players at home? Sorry that's the wrong tactic and Herrera should be higher
Lingard has got goals so yes bring him on but you have to adjust the formation as they ended up with a similar problem where Lingard was central but always high up the pitch leaving a hole in the middle WBA filled that space then played wide this was the issue throughout the game.

 

Its no good posting evidence of how negative mourinho is, that is just "sheep talk" according to diego.

I run with the flock on this one.

 

He'd have a point if Pogba is being hooked for not listening but then his substitution didn't solve the problem.

 

Herrera does exactly what he is told. thats was a two man deep lying midfield... at home... v the bottom side in the prem.

Its

Matic Herrera
Pogba

whereas at home it should be

Matic
Herrera Pogba

If the manager was not happy he should have changed this and scream at herrara... did he? nope.

You need to figure out what the intent is here and whether the manager's intent was stuck to buy players or not. Mourinho is claiming they didn't.

 

This one's deffo on mourinho.

It's the shape he likes his team to be. Stops them being an attacking force

 

Mourinho tactical masterclass.

 

Karius > De Gea
TAA > Valencia
Van Dijk > Smalling
Lovren > Lindelof
Robertson > Young
Wijnaldum > Herrera
AOC > Pogba
Henderson > Matic
Mane > Mata
Firmino > Lukaku
Salah > Sanchez

 

I think most utd fans agree.

As i have said many times IMO Utd have a very very good squad that anther manager would do a lot more with. Mourinho gets the results due to having very very good players but every game i have seen this season they've held back.

most of the time they don't concede goals which is his objective and thats fine but most of the time they score one or two then shut the game down so it must be really frustrating as a fan to watch cos the chances of a really entertaining game are low.

They started well playing a few 4-0s i think 4 in the first 7 or 8 league games v the sides in real struggles but then they played us 0-0 and then started just being more defensive most of the time.

TBh everyone has been hammering the ****ter teams in this league so really the gap to city is frop the harder games

LFC 0-0
lost to Huddersfield inexplicably (abused players after this and i feel this might have triggered something)
Spurs 1-0 late winner
Cheslea 0-1 loss
beat arsenal
lost to city 3-1
drew Leicester
drew burnley
drew southampton (that was a three game run of disasters that ended league)
Lost to spurs


IMO theres a few players utd have that need the arm round the shoulder and building up not tearing down and the results have shown a drop off at crucial times based on mourinho savaging them. He's done it 4 or 5 times this season and its not worked at all but he keeps doing it.

I think thats pressure showing personally.

 

That's what I thought and despite Diego saying otherwise I think Jose got it wrong and failed to address the issue. Rodriguez would drop into the midfield and start attacks as there was a huge gap there.

 

Sorry you misunderstood my question, I didn't want you to go to so much effort.
I'm not arrogant enough to self-assess the validity of my own opinion - that's for others to judge.

 

Unless it won then it’s just doing a spurs/Arsenal.

 

if you ever manage to make the top 4 again at least now you will actually make the group stages.