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Match Day Thread Leeds Utd v Sunderland

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Apr 4, 2018.

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SCORELINE: LEEDS UTD V Sunderland

Poll closed Apr 7, 2018.
  1. 0-0

    5.0%
  2. 1-1

    10.0%
  3. 2-2 or higher

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Leeds by 1

    20.0%
  5. Sunderland by 1

    15.0%
  6. Leeds by 2

    30.0%
  7. Sunderland by 2

    25.0%
  8. Leeds by 3 or more

    10.0%
  9. Sunderland by 3 or more

    5.0%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. 2 pennth

    2 pennth Well-Known Member

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    Think you are being a bit ambitious there Gordon, maybe 2-1 or should I say 1-2
     
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  2. Oldsparkey

    Oldsparkey Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    For a couple of big clubs, you've got something else in common pal - little club Cardiff City did the double on you both this season.....<whistle>

    Just been "analysing" (your word) your away game at our place and we got 4 and you were lucky to get nil. On the other hand when we beat Leeds at Elland Road, again we got 4 but at least they got 1 even if it was our bloke Bamba who scored it for them.......<laugh>

    On that knowledge and based on your "proven system" I'm going for a 0-0 home win........<laugh>:emoticon-0105-wink:
     
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  3. lifecheshirewhite

    lifecheshirewhite Cheese

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    This is the matchday thread,and you're heading for a wrist slapping.<whistle>
     
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  4. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    This season means nothing now.our coach has had a good look at the players and lets give him some credit.he must know who is good enough mentally by now .he told saiz to be a team player more and he would be a better player.did he listen ? i leave that up to you guys.lets see what happens close season and then what we acheive first ten games.agree with marcos this chop and change has to stop.warnock went to cardiff and said lets play it my way or sit on the bench.they had better players than us and he picked a team to form a unit.we do not have that luxury and its been obvious all season.the squad will be cut down pre season and like it or not some will go out on loan or sit around all season.
    Where Sacko will end up i do not know but he is not man enough for Leeds United.headless chicken speings to mind.
     
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  5. Leedsoflondon

    Leedsoflondon Well-Known Member

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    Evening all. For me the problem starts at the top with Radz / Orta. As WJ pointed out they brought in players and a coach to play 4-2-3-1. When they decided to change TC they brought in a man that favours 4-4-2. If they were going to make the change at least scout a coach that favours the style of the players brought in. As for lack on new manager ‘bounce’, I see monk seems to be getting it at brum.
     
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  6. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Evening London, I don't know what formation Heckingbottom was playing at Barnsley, but I heard a Heckingbottom interview saying he was going to make sure we were going to be harder to break down.
     
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  7. bucks_is_leeds

    bucks_is_leeds Jonny big spuds Forum Moderator

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    Welcome to the non regulars , your welcome to stick around and talk bollocks on any other thread just keep this one on topic please.

    The rest of you already know that <ok>
     
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  8. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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  9. 2020VisionofLeeds

    2020VisionofLeeds Well-Known Member

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  10. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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  11. Whitejock

    Whitejock Well-Known Member

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    Totally missed that, chaps. Wow! Let the panic begin.

    I'm guessing O'Connor is deffo playing then, with Berra our only backup if another CB gets injured. I guess another option might be to play Ekuban at CB & tell him to try to score against us. Should guarantee some good clearences, eh? <yikes><whistle>:D
     
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  12. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    I’d imagine Berardi in at CB and bring Pearce back in at LB?
     
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  13. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    All these injuries suggest to me they are being over trained but you wouldn't guess it from the ****e we keep playing.
    Players not good enough being pushed to breaking points by the coaches trying to compensate for the lack of quality.
    Its all Ortas fault.
     
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  14. 2 pennth

    2 pennth Well-Known Member

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    Did tell you months ago it was Orta's fault. The jury retires on 6th May and after due deliberation will give their verdict.
     
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  15. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    You didn’t tell me. I already knew...
    The buck now doesn’t stop with him though. Rad has been here long enough to have addressed the set up and hasn’t.
     
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    2 pennth Well-Known Member

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    Expectations(mine) are that Radz will do nothing about the setup at ER.
    This being the case then Radz is as guilty as hell, not Orta not PH not the players 100% Radrizzani's fault.
    Unfortunately I see all the usual excuses coming from the usual suspects come September, in fact I think I have already seen one, something about waiting until we are 10 games into the new season would you believe.
     
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  17. clockstander

    clockstander Well-Known Member

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    Wish we had the luxury of one fit centre back. Should be more than enough to cope with our loan striker. <laugh>
     
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  18. 1964white

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    Pennington was subbed at Fulham Jock
     
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    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    When the animosities between Sunderland and Leeds started, as told by ‘King’ Charlie Hurley!


    Mark Metcalf shares with us an excerpt from his authorised biography of Charlie Hurley; The Greatest Centre-Half the World has Ever Seen.

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    The first away game in Division Two of the 1962/63 season was against another northern team who was on the hard march back to the top division, although like Sunderland, Leeds were not to reach the promised land until the following season.

    The way they did it was uncompromising in the extreme and they made many enemies. Sunderland was one and it was at this game that the hostilities started. They have never really gone away.

    The flash point was an horrendous thigh-high tackle by Bobby Collins which resulted in Willie McPheat being carried off with a broken leg. Never recovering properly, the Scotsman did not play again for Sunderland. He moved back to Scotland to join Airdrie.

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    The return match with Leeds came three days before Christmas and although Brian Clough failed to score – surprising because he’d notched 24 from just 23 games – Charlie Hurley did. It was the winning goal in a 2-1 victory – “[he] had time to bring the ball under control before hammering it left-footed wide of Gary Sprake.”
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    Hurley had caused trouble with his presence in the box and Leeds had delegated two men to watch him including Jack Charlton but he scored with his feet from a corner after Ambrose challenged for the ball.

    The goal was one of Hurley’s sweetest of his career. The Sunderland team were still bitter about the challenge on McPheat at Elland Road. The man responsible, Bobby Collins, had been in fine form for Leeds and had played in the Yorkshire side’s previous game, a 3-1 victory at home to Stoke. But he was not playing that day.

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    He had appeared on the pitch before the game but according to the Yorkshire Post report on the Monday following the game; "Collins, the inside-left, missed the match because of a strained calf muscle.” It suggested that had he played the away side might have pulled off “a notable victory in a match where Sunderland were inspired by the ‘Roker Roar’ from a crowd of 40,282.” The game was the only one in the league Collins missed for Leeds in the 1962–63 season.

    It appears he might have missed a few more had he played that day and you have to wonder if he was left out for reasons other than injury.

    Hurley remembers the day, and the man, well:

    Bobby Collins – he broke Willie McPheat’s leg with a very bad tackle and if there was one player I was going to get on a football pitch it was him. I said to Len Ashurst and Jimmy McNab that Willie McPheat’s career could be finished and sadly I was right, his thighbone was broken. I said to them ‘I am a hard player but today I am going to be a dirty player’.

    Before the match all the Leeds players were on the pitch including Collins. I said to him ‘Bobby, you’d better be careful because there are twenty-two legs out here ready to kick you all over the place.’ When they came back out for the match he wasn’t picked. I think it would have been a tough time for Bobby if he’d played that day. Leeds and Don Revie, they had a fine side, but they could never really dominate us.

    Collins, voted Footballer of the Year in 1965, continued to captain Leeds until 1966, when ironically he suffered a broken thighbone in a Fairs Cup tie against Torino.
     
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  20. Eric Le Merde

    Eric Le Merde Well-Known Member

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    A win today and mathematically safe.
     
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