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Discussion in 'Queens Park Rangers' started by Stroller, Jun 25, 2015.

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Should the UK remain a part of the EU or leave?

Poll closed Jun 24, 2016.
  1. Stay in

    56 vote(s)
    47.9%
  2. Get out

    61 vote(s)
    52.1%
  1. durbar2003

    durbar2003 Well-Known Member

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    Anyway, I see there have been more murders in London than New York so far this year.
     
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    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...ate-new-york-overtakes-stabbing-a8283866.html

    Yes, another feather in the cap of Sadiq Khanage, whilst he spends most of his time posting selfies on Twitter and entertaining the Cycle Lobby his city descends into lawlessness with Gang warfare, acid attacks at record levels, scooter morons robbing at will and traffic at a virtual standstill throughout the centre of the city. Didn't he do well?...
     
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    [Deleted on account of being too sarky and needlessly provocative]
     
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    He will if he gets a large proportion of people travelling in London to use their own bicycles, pick up/ drop off bicycles, or taxi bicycles.
     
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    The reason we have a legal system is so this kind of emotional response is taken out of the equation.

    What you seem to be suggesting is that were it to happen to me I would harbour a desire for revenge... but even if I did, so what?

    An 'eye for an eye' is breakdown of our civilised rule of law. In short, we stoop to their level... and as I said before, what does that then make us?

    A further factor lies in what this actually achieves? There is plenty of evidence to suggest that closure for the families of murder victims is not any more likely when the perpetrator gets the death penalty over a jail term.
     
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    Nothing to do with government cuts to police funding?

    https://www.london.gov.uk/press-releases/mayoral/stark-reality-of-government-police-funding-cuts

    https://fullfact.org/crime/london-losing-3000-police-officers/
     
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    NYPD Annual Budget 2018 - $5.6 billion

    London Met Police Annual Budget 2018 - £3.24 billion (=$4.5bn)
     
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    Thanks Seagullpoop, that explains it!
     
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    I see that Rape and Violent crime are also higher in London, to which I'm am amazed.
     
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    Whatever is said about sadiq it is a very naive or stupid person who blames him for crime level statistics in the capital. Take a look at society in general first and foremost. Then the level of cuts to the police force. A recipe for disaster!! Oh I know let's just blame one guy!!
     
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    Who knows... population density, overcrowding, poverty, more visible wealth, better rates of crime reporting?
     
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    Or, have you thought about this, there could me more Rapes and Violent crimes in London than New York?
     
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    Ok.

    You seem to be hinting you know why, so I'll ask you.

    Why are there more Rapes and Violent crimes in London than New York?
     
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    No Idea
     
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    I think using the holocaust in any statement or opinion is crass especially from a nation like us that knew it was taking place during WW2 and did nothing

    If you get punched then give three back and you won’t go wrong in life imo. Never throw the first one is the key imo ... that’s you chance to take the high ground then

    I support the Palestinian struggle in opinion only Anyone who even is sucked in by Israel being the true goodness is naive imo
     
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    I know the TV and films are fictional baloney designed (mainly) to entertain, but isn’t it ironic that in most police/spy thrillers we generally love the maverick who steps outside the law, meting out cold hard justice from the barrel of his gun or the end of some sharp sticky thing, yet here in the real world we’re supposed to be all namby-pamby, moral high ground, do it by the book, frilly knickers and natural yoghurt?

    I don’t care if dishing out retribution on scum like the ISIS ‘Beatles’ lowers us to their level. It’s high time we had a few more Dirty Harrys, John McClanes and whatever ****e character name Arnie takes in his movies. In fact, I’d go one step further by passing a law that makes it mandatory to say a dispatch-related quip immediately after the baddie meets his doom.

    In an Arnie voice: “So, ISIS Beatles....let me grab hold of your head...I’ll twist while you shout!”
     
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    To which they reply "Help"...
     
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    The establishment and the right-wing media don't need to convince anyone. Just watch the last 3 PMQ's that says it all about Comrade Corbyn. He has no chance of winning anything now. Thank god.
     
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