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The #LUFC Breakfast Debate (Fri 23 Mar)

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Mar 23, 2018.

  1. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Good Morning Everyone

    Further to Heckinbottoms comments on Wednesday:

    "As people they have been good and the response has been good," he said. "We are going to have to do a lot of things better next season if we are going to try and get in that top 6 especially if we are going to have a mid-table budget”

    Does this mean that Rad is going to reduce season ticket prices to reflect a mid table average season ticket price?




    Jansson, who is away with the Swedish squad on International duty has expressed his concerns about the direction Leeds are going.

    Speaking to TheExpressen, a national newspaper in his homeland he was quoted as saying:-

    "We'll see what's happening, I want to hear from the club how to look next year and so on,”

    Surely this throws into doubt that he'll still be with us in September?





    Given the option to replace Heckingbottom in the Summer with that scummer Jaap Stam, who would want that?

    Even though he left the club a fortnight ago he has maintained possession of the ball.
     
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  2. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Morning Matt...

    Gotta say the season is done and even as a realist its hard work just to look at the situation and give a feck...
    The succession of dodgy owners of which Rad is just another have over the last 15 years turned most peoples optimism to apathy or even worse.
    What carried most people along was that things would eventually get better. Rad came in promised the world and has taken the club massively backwards.
    Next season is going to be one that defines LUFC for the next decade, if Rad continues current policies and things continue to stagnate despite his rhetoric we will be back to falling gates, huge protests and organized boycotts.

    He said he would deliver and now he has to. the honeymoon is over...

    I wanted to believe as much as Billy and chesh but didn't. Now I am 100% certain that if this club is going to get anywhere near the prem it wont be under the ownership of Rad the PR spin king.
     
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  3. ristac

    ristac Well-Known Member Forum Moderator

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    Morning all...

    To be honest, all the negativity towards our expectations for next season together with the comments from the likes of Pontus are a good thing. It will be filtering through to Rads and he knows now it is act or have those still onside (myself included) start to drift.

    He reinvested a lot into new players, brought the ground back and put an infrastructure in place, right or wrong he appointed a new coach that cost money rather than the out of work free agent.

    Succeed or fail, he has put money in and turned a corner with us, yes not everyone is happy but he still has a chunk of support and he ain’t stupid. He knows something needs to change if he is going to keep the remaining fans on side.

    I don’t yet wish for Rads to go, Bates, GFH and Cellino are still very fresh in my mind. Rads knew nothing about football when he came in, well he knows it enough now to recognise players not pulling their weight and comment on it.

    I’ll give him preseason before judging him, his approach this season had great intentions but he either doesn’t learn and it’s more of the same or he makes some big ball decisions on recruitment, signings and investment.

    I personally don’t feel it would take much fixing. For me it would be sack Orta, PH and the set piece coach. Go and get someone like Alex Neil from Preston the ex Norwich boss, give him £10m or whatever the budget is, tell him " if you want more sell the baggage and the proceeds are yours to reinvest."
     
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  4. MIGHTY

    MIGHTY Del-Boy

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    You have 2 chances of getting back to the prem
    1) a Leeds fan with more money than sense takes over (shouldn't be hard to find he only needs tuppence) and spends multi millions putting things right,
    although many have tried this and failed.
    2) find a decent leeds man manager give him full support and build a team slowly over 3 or 4 years,

    think we can safely say outing 15 players and bringing in 20 wiki google players doesn't work <laugh>
     
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  5. Eireleeds1

    Eireleeds1 Well-Known Member

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    Morning Elland and all. Snoddy left six years ago but cited lack of ambition at the club at the time as his reason. Several years later and several owners later and Pontus is making similar noises. Itll tell a story in the summer if Pontus stays or goes.If he stays, itll be because he believes in the behind the scenes stuff, if he leaves <yikes>
     
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  6. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    At heart you remain an optimist and for that you deserve great credit.

    I remain a realist and actions always speak louder than words so don't share your vision.

    To paraphrase, the road to football oblivion is often paved with good intentions. I think the appointment of failed at Barnsley coach PH shows exactly how much Rad has learned and results since he came in are the consequence. I think the club is every bit as much a basket case as it was even under GFH. We don't own the ground (Rad has replaced Teak investments and effectively mirrored what Bates did) The first team squad is not fit for purpose and will need completely rebuilding to get out of the championship, the academy and junior sides are incoherentyl structured and filled with foreign ****e that will never ply their trade in English football.
    Hell the coaches don't even speak a common language.
     
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  7. w.c.dukenfieldesq

    w.c.dukenfieldesq Well-Known Member

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    Morning all. I'm sure all who follow the fortunes of Leeds will agree with much of what you say. The time for talking is over and it's now time to see some sign of what is being done to arrest the slump that we are in. This may give some indication of what we can expect in the future.
     
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  8. Doc

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    I agree with Ristac on the Radz ownership, but I'm still not convinced Orta is to blame. If Orta has a few quid he has to get what that few quid will buy. I believe a lot of structural work behind the scenes around the academy, U23s is for the benefit firstly of the bank account and secondly the benfit of the first team if we uncover a gem., and to be fair we have at least 4 strikers who could well be first team squad players next season along with Tyler Roberts. Pearce, Hossanah and Machuka, plus the Polish keeper and the Finnish big CB. So work in progress.

    I seem to remember Pontus being quoted in Swedish press last year and saying exactly the same. However the club do need to tell the players what the plan is for next season and to admit this season has been the worst for years. Radz will be gutted and now he has more fans slating him than praising him and his popularity has gone from 100% to 60% simply because I think theres a core of fans who thank him for whet hes done and will allow him time to rectify his mistakes.
     
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  9. leeds60

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    Good Morning to Matt and co from a hazy Bardsey
    I am still in AR camp the bloke is no fool and unlike the great Glory who is always right I believe he knows he has to get things right on the playing front so I expect 4 0r 5 new quality signings a goalkeeper a CB a LB a striker and a winger
    if not Pontus will in my opinion leave
    Yesterday I took Moe to the Magpie and I was pleased that the old staff was still there and it was as good as always,however it was not full so perhaps it will like Leeds take time to turn things round the Quayside restaurant was empty so obviously Glory's praises have not been heard/,Perhaps like me they think he talks tosh!
     
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  10. TC (Lovely Geezer)

    TC (Lovely Geezer) Well-Known Member

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    How would you lot feel if Ken Bates was still owner and did what Radrizanni has done?

    Bought ground off Teak and put it in the name of one of his offshore companies
    Sold Wood, Bridcutt, Green, Taylor, Doukoura, Irwin, Silvestri, etc and replaced with what you have now.
    Employed Orta
    The badge fiasco
    The Season Ticket prices
    Sacking TC
    Hiring Heckingbum
    Slagging off Wolves

    I bet he would have got annihilated on here by EVERYONE <ok>
     
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  11. southernwhite

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    <yikes>:emoticon-0107-sweat
     
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  12. southernwhite

    southernwhite Well-Known Member

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    <applause> Ohhhh Yessssss as churchill would say,this seems such an obvious answer to us fans,but the powers at be, seem to want the suicidal root,every Leeds fan would have told him that PH aint gonna work out,so why can we see the bloody obvious and rads can't ? does make me wonder.:emoticon-0112-wonde
     
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  13. 2 pennth

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    The book should stop with Radz, bringing in 4 or 5 new players in the close season in it's self does not mean a row of beans, depends on the quality.
    For those of an age remember the TVs programme Never Mind The Quality Feel The Width, LU is a lot like that
     
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  14. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest Forum Moderator

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    Enough said mate. <ok>
     
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  15. wakeybreakyheart

    wakeybreakyheart Well-Known Member

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    The words width only apply to lassoga .
     
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  16. MIGHTY

    MIGHTY Del-Boy

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    funny how you talk about Pontus as if he were real quality all he is is the best of a bad bunch Pablo is ok but older than Morison spit the dog looks good on the ball but never seems to have an end product <ok>
     
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  17. lifecheshirewhite

    lifecheshirewhite Cheese

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    Total **** :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  18. w.c.dukenfieldesq

    w.c.dukenfieldesq Well-Known Member

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    It seems very unlikely but I believe the signing of someone like Traore would lift the confidence and improve the team beyond recognition.
     
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  19. leeds60

    leeds60 Well-Known Member

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    Walt glad you agree with me I like the look of this lad too go down a bomb at ER
     
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  20. lifecheshirewhite

    lifecheshirewhite Cheese

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    Why would he want to leave a promotion Chasing team to go to Leeds ?
     
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