Wow and ****ing hell that's some statement. I don't see any politics it's about the reintroduction of some concessions. Why does the OSC have a seat on the supporters meetings if you are not representing the views of anyone? That person is no better than the Allam picked ones.
As I've said, these are Ehab's 'concessions'. We haven't won here. Ehab think's he's won. He hasn't succumbed to anyone. He's just moved another chess piece in his ongoing battle with the fans of Hull City. Concessions is concessions. His version shouldn't be seen as a victory for us.
And your point is? Those who can’t be arsed can’t be arsed, end of, move on. The abstainers we discuss are those who can be arsed, but make a sensible, logical decision not to vote for either option, as they dislike and disagree with both. They don’t wish to be hypocritical, they wish to have the same level of discretion and choice as you, Al and Happy. The key difference seems to be that they don’t criticise or deny anyone else that choice. You often talk in absolute terms; saying ‘it’s guaranteed to achieve nothing’ totally misses the point - the ballot, on its own, is a travesty, unless someone takes the three options to another level. Stop pointing a finger at abstainers, because there will always be three pointing back at those who attended the manipulated meetings. The Allams have their forum, their conduit for divisive manipulation; they know how to string along well intentioned people and then shaft them. That’s it.
I’ve merely posted my opinion, nobody’s being denied anything, people will ultimately have to make up their own minds and vote/not vote as they see fit.
Actually Chazz didn’t say it was like a General Election, he said the exact opposite He quoted someone who said that ‘it’s like a General Election you just vote for what’s best for you’ in order to slate that person ...quite rightly
I will be abstaining, before jumping on my back read why. If I voted yes to this I am not voting 'yes to the principle of concessions' that is not an option here. Not one of the choices is for the principle of concessions. One is to carry on as we are and one is to vote for Ehabs ludicrous pricing structure. The other is to take a stance and abstain. I am abstaining because this is not an olive branch this is Ehab taking the piss. Unfortunately I know him through work and I know for a fact he will take this as a win. The whole we will lobby him for better concessions. That won't happen. He will walk away and paint the picture of the wonderful owner of someone who listened to supporters. He will have a number of that committee on his side! What we now need to do is up the propaganda up the media campaign, up the twitter campaign. Show the world for who he is really is. Now isnt the time to give into this terrible offer. My boycott continues. #ALLAMSOUT
I'm really struggling with this - in principle I am happy to pay a little bit more as an adult in the interest of making things cheaper for concessions; but as a Dad taking a 15 year old son I kind of feel that I should be in a category to benefit even for a short period from concessions being brought back in. But actually instead of paying the current £42; my concession will cost me a further £3 (a 7% increase - now £45) then in 3 years I get to pay £54 (a 28.5% increase) whilst my son will still be in full time education. To me this really is a just another mickey take and because of this even though I feel I have to vote for the principles of concessions - these are not concessions, and protests should not be toned down one little bit. This choice will just result in further animosity towards the club - the club loose - pathetic!!!
But if you don't vote you could be seen as endorsing Ehab's belief that we are the best run club and nothing needs to change
Indeed. There's greater concerns in this world tbf. I guess the hatred I have about our owners is there for all to see. And I think it's justified. Incidentally, can the thread title be changed to 'That Ballot' ? Seems more appropriate.
The turkeys are been balloted to see if Christmas should be abolished. A yes vote means no more Christmases, a no vote means Christmas continues, and abstention also means Christmas continues. Does this help?
