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Cycling... What a corrupt sport

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  1. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    It's almost a guarantee, if you win, you're cheating, have cheated, or have bent the rules beyond what is ethical.

    No just the winners though... They all cheat from front to back. Hard to take seriously a sport where the winner is he who can cheat the most without getting caught.
     
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  2. Angry_Physics

    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    I used to love cycling back in the day, but the sport has more drug users than Baltimore in the 1990s. Can't stand it now

    Cyclists are also naturally full of venom, it's a dirty sport even without mentioning drugs
     
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  3. luvgonzo

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    If they just let everyone cheat then it evens out the field again, sorted. They should put me in charge of these things.
     
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    You'd be great at a kiddie's play group. "Ah let 'em fight - sort themselves out". :)
     
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    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Not at all.

    I'd get them organised and have some rules and an Octagon with barbed wire on top...might be overthinking this now, I'll stop.
     
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    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Tainted. The Knighthood'll be going back soon <laugh>
     
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    Angry_Physics Well-Known Member

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    but definitely give them a sack of sugar first :bandit:
     
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    If you run a cycling doping ring in the US, you get invited on to Oprah. <laugh>
    #LanceThatBoil
     
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    Problem was Lance had "strong arms" but the legs needed a little help <laugh>
     
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  10. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Yeah... If we let them cheat, in order to be competitive you'll have to take enough steroids that you have a heart attack on your 30th birthday.

    I guess the winners will be who wants it most. Who is willing to die to be champion?
     
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    It's a plan, didn't say it was perfect.
     
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    lets not forget heavy Roiders often beat the **** out of their wives and kids too

    That Wrestler Chris Benoit, the Canadian guy, killed them all, he was pumped to **** on roids
     
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    So nobody actually cheated or broke any rules...

    Don't get me wrong Cycling and Athletics are rife with drugs and cheats, but by the rules nobody has cheated. This probably says more about the Rules than anybody else.

    Also the sources one is anonymous, so refuses to put their name to allegations, and the other is Shane Sutton who was sacked for sexism and bullying, sounds like an axe to grind to me.
    I'll agree that team Sky have handled themselves appallingly and not helped their own case by being closed off and shady.

    Also MPs... Ethical... <laugh><laugh><laugh>
     
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  14. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    Debatable. If he didn't have a legitimate need to take the drugs or the quantity he was taking he was still breaking the rules.

    As for ethical MPs..
    Maybe we should teach them to cycle.
     
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    But its not Debatable, the report clears him and the team of breaking rules. Claims they bent the rules. But this is debatable as to who the sources are (are they trustworthy, unbiased etc) and because Team Sky royally ****ed up, whether on purpose or accidentally.

    Not defending Team Sky, but overall it comes down to one set of people saying one thing and another saying something else, and frankly I don't trust either, so who can say for sure.
     
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    Firstly you can say pretty much everything any rider or team says is total bullshit as there's so much subterfuge and lying in the sport and we can't know the true extent of this ... however Sky and Wiggins haven't technically broken any WADA rules or regs by using TUEs to obtain PEDs ... that being said it is extremely extremely dodgy and certainly well within that grey area of the current rules of the sport around doping and stretching those. They're playing the rules in a very clever, very precise and very scientific way. This is exactly how Armstrong's program started back in the day so I'm sure there will be more to come. It won't be just Sky who have been at it though, every team will be doing it, it's just that there's more impetus to get a figure like Wiggins and that team in the UK since they're so high profile.

    Despite this, cycling itself as an activity (excluding some total idiots you do get on bikes out on the road) is a really great thing and it's a shame that the very positive things in terms of health and wellbeing that it brings in life for many people who do at the various levels are not reflected in the integrity and principles of the sport at it's highest level.
     
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    The main issue is why UKAD/WADA whoever it is issues TUE's didn't issue it under strict controls if it's a drug known to be abused for other than it's medical need.

    Ie. .your doctor has to keep perfect records of dosage etc. Your TUE should be provisional on the expectation of normal doses...

    From what I've read that's once a year for this medication usual need. Wiggins reportedly took it 9 times in 4 years...thats over double the usual dose.

    Your doctor should have to provide why that was deemed necessary. If he can't provide the records the exemption should be withdrawn.

    So unless Wiggans can provide evidence for why he needed the medication as much as he did then he's got away with cheating on a technicality.
     
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    the 9 times is from the anon source all we know for certain are the in competition TUE's which from memory totalled 3.
     
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    But did the doctor not state that he didn't keep a log?

    That's my point. The authority issuing should be insisting on accurate treatment logs. Then there wouldn't be a question mark or at the very least Wiggans/Team Sky would get penalised for not following correct procedure.

    Just seems insane that this type of thing wasn't a requirement when this particular drug can be abused.
     
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    never mind UKAD/WADA rules think it's probably a legal statutory requirement to record prescribed drugs.
    Yep the Dr lost his laptop where he had stored the records which should have been placed in a dropbox account if my memory is right. The incredibly slack record keeping stinks considering Brailsford mantra of every tiny little detail being important & automatically leads to suspicions of dodgy practices.
     
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