My view on Ming is similar to Voltaire’s quote “Think for yourselves, and allow others the privilege to do so, too.” (and no, he didn’t say the one about defending to the death people’s right to express views he disagreed with) I don’t agree with his original position on how important knitwear was, but he has posted some interesting posts and it’s at least keeping the debate going He has done exactly what you accused Ben of though, referring to others as ‘cavemen’ because he disagrees with their view I think we all realise that you’ll get extreme views on here, but that’s often the fun of it. People will argue with each other, but nothing to get excited about...it’s not real life (these discussions over a pint would be much more conciliatory on everyone’s part...but not as much fun written down!) I am interested in which part of Harlem he’s from though Alllams Out
You would never get every supporter to cancel their membership. I have not cancelled mine and have no intention of cancelling. I do not want to stay away from games either. My approach is I am not letting them stop me doing something I want to do (Okay I agree the results make it miserable at the moment). I would be in favour of their being more support but everyone united in their dislike of the Allams shown in something like the red card we used before. I am not in favour of anything that would disrupt the game and players on the pitch, got to be honest the ball throwing incident made me cringe. It is a very difficult situation and everyone has their own ideas of protest. I do like your other suggestion of looking into the accounts though.
... and are now talking about rescheduling it to a few days before said game! Another couple of weeks of them having to do nothing will have passed by, and, I'm sure they are hoping, plotting and scheming what they can say ahead of and during said meeting to head off the protests and save embarrassment to their name. Only then a few more weeks to go before the season's over. Mission accomplished. We're mugged off. No, let them have hell. They deserve whatever is coming, and more.
Many are labouring under the misapprehension that HullCityActionForChange are leading all the protests and are able to control what is and isn't going to happen and that's simply not the case.
So the allams don't like AFC any more - surely this cannot be to get back at Hull City Action For Change (AFC).
Probably didn't think we had a functioning judiciry when the illegal actions of the suffragettes brought about change, or the USA when the civil rights movement brought an end to segregation. Or the French at the time of their revolution
Hmm Actually I can’t recall exactly (apart from the fact it’s often misquoted as him) I thought it was someone else’s quote describing Voltaire’s general view on things I didn’t think Voltaire had said it all, even as a quote of someone else Ming might know
You got to listen to some great singers on Civil Rights marches though. The crowd there was probably the largest crowd anyone had performed live in front of at the time.
1. What do the fans want? I would guess that, at a base level, people would be happy with new owners (who will bring back concessions and use the club's name) and the club still being in existence. In short, the owners to leave without liquidating the club. I'm sure most would accept administration if those aims were achieved. 2. How do you make the current owners leave (putting aside that no one tells them when to leave and this question will be perceived as a veiled threat)? They will go when they are ready and not before. They want their gift back and the only leverage the fans have over them is whether they can prevent the £77m owed to Allamhouse at the end of 30 Jun 2017 from being repaid. Outside of this, I'm sure the Allams don't care what happens to Hull City Tigers Ltd. With every parachute payment that is paid, the ability for the fans to influence this diminishes (I personally would say that somehow blocking payment from the Premier league to the club is the ONLY way to influence the Allam's departure without resorting to nefarious means). Getting the club fined due to pitch invasion will cost the club, but not the Allams (unless the directors get fined), so I doubt they care if that happens. As long as they get their last tranches of parachute payments, and clear the loan to Allamhouse, I reckon they'll be happy. If they bring in a 3rd party at the end of the season, it'll be with the aim of making the club break even with crowds of 3k (i.e. Get ready to see lots of cheap youth players playing 50 games).
actually, the biggest factor in changing the industry was convincing the law makers that the compulsive testing they were requiring (such as LD50, the amount of chemical needed to kill half the rats or rabbits you dosed) was meaningless in terms of determining safety for humans, and pointless and cruel. Changing the law and rules to ensure that testing is only done when absolutely necessary and done ethically as possible was far more effective. Targeting suppliers of the laboratories only drove them abroad - the data is still required by law, it has to be generated somewhere. And animal welfare laws in the U.K. are some of the strictest in the world - the animal world certainly isn’t better off if testing happens in other, “cheaper” countries. So, by that analogy, we should be targeting the FA and EFL to enforce existing laws and rules about fit and proper owners, and campaigning for new laws and rules where there are gaps that allow twattish behaviour by owners.
Although to me at least, it seems it is too late in the day to adopt this approach (forensic accountancy firm). The first and second would have impacted without doubt.
