I don't think either knew what the Law said until the presenter read it to them.....then they agreed it was stupid.
It was the 'having a go at the linesman' that really got me going. He did everything right and yet they were laying into him for doing so.
Proving once and for all what Spurs fans have known about him for years: he's an idiot who doesn't know the rules of football. "FIRST PENALTY 1.Was it offside? This should not have been a penalty because it was offside. At Anfield, because of the atmosphere, it can be difficult to hear each other on the headsets, which is why Moss went over to talk to his assistant Eddie Smart. The assistant had said that Harry Kane was in an offside position. The question then is whether Dejan Lovren deliberately played the ball and has Kane, by being in an offside position, impacted Lovren. The issue is not whether it touched the defender, but whether he played it deliberately. A professional footballer would not have played it into Kane’s path on purpose. From the way he was facing, if it had been deliberate, the ball would have gone up the field. You can make an argument that Lovren would not have made this type of attempt for the ball if Kane was not close to him and, therefore, the impact of his presence plays a part in the decision-making of the referee." Possibly the dumbest comment about football that I've ever read, including some of the gems that I've seen on here. A professional footballer never kicks the ball somewhere that he doesn't intend it to go, apparently. Someone should tell Dier that for their first goal or Cech for Swansea's second against Arsenal. Monumentally dumb. As for Kane interfering by being in an offside position, that's explicitly explained in the rule, as posted on here earlier. He genuinely doesn't know what the rules are. Astounding. He also felt that the second shouldn't have been given, as it was a 50/50 decision. Except it wasn't and he's clearly wrong. I really hope that nobody gets the stupid ****ing idea of bringing this utter prick back to the UK. He's utterly useless and easily the most arrogant official that we've ever had.
The reaction to these decisions has been ridiculous. Moss and his assistants get them right, but they're still slaughtered. Remind you of anything? Maybe his last game in charge of Liverpool, when he sent Mane off for fly-kicking City's keeper in the face? Hasn't had one of their games since and probably won't get one for the rest of the season, now. Don't give big decisions against certain teams or you get pulled off their games? That's not healthy. Nice of Firmino to cover up his teeth when talking to the official, though. Should help to avoid any sight loss.
What's the ****ing point in VAR if the referees don't know the rules in the first place? Dermot Gallagher says both were penalties. There needs to be clarity and certainty or this isn't going to improve, no matter what technology gets thrown at it. Jon Moss having to do a press conference after would be a start.
The media don't help with this stuff, as they love a bit of drama and controversy. **** needs to be stirred. How many phone-ins have been jammed with irate Scousers since the game finished? There's money to be made. The lino's angle of the second penalty makes it really obvious that it's a foul. Why did we see every other angle during the match, but not that one? Might calm down the fury and we wouldn't want that, would we? Van Dijk should be ashamed of his comments about Lamela and Kane today, too. He knows for a fact that he kicked the Argentinian and his keeper admitted to making contact with Kane in his post-match interview. Got to deflect from your own **** ups when you cost £75m though, I guess. Twat.
Yes, I keep forgetting, it's all about the broadcasters getting their angle and maximised income. The ease with which the media withhold stuff should be something that I'm used to but it's still slightly surprising to me. As you say, if Sky released the linesman's view footage there's no more story.....
Jenas has also got it wrong: "According to the Football Association, the law is that a player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball is not considered to have gained an advantage. It is farcical to apply that law to this incident, though. When I saw Dele pass that ball aiming it towards Kane, the fact is Kane is offside at that point and the flag should go up. Kane is offside at the moment that Alli plays the pass to him, so for me it is irrelevant that it ricochets off Dejan Lovren on its way through to him because Lovren does not play a deliberate pass."
I agree that it should be offside, but it's not actually offside under the current rules. It didn't ricochet off Lovren, either. He miskicks it. It's quite deliberate, he just ****s it up.
Goons up next. If you know a Gooner they might want to read this and weep! https://www.theplayerstribune.com/harry-kane-tottenham-zero-to-100/
A rather pleasing development. The referees' body PGMOL have come out with some definitive information... http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42943628 More of this kind of thing would be helpful.
Do you think we should share this on the Liverpool board? They seem to have a real soft-spot for Harry!
Haven't they come a long way. My first boots were two sizes too big and belonged to my school teacher.They were also nailed in studs! I must have been pathetic to watch as a 10 year old!!!!!!?
"Clearly attempting to play the ball..." Or "...challenging for the ball" Are the parts of the law which maybe make Kane offside (and chime with mine and others' feeling that it should be offside, maybe leaning a little on the old concept of "interfering with play"). By running to the ball, turning his body to play it, Kane is clearly aiming to play the ball/challenge for it. I know, I know he's not *clearly* playing it/challenging for it but it's absurd that there is a phase of play that lasts from when the ball leaves Dele's (?) foot up to but not including the point where Lovren touches it and then another *totally seperate* phase of play after Lovren touches it. The *only* reason he goes for it is cos Kane is lurking. As a defender you have to do what he did - attempt to clear it. It's absurd that if he gets it wrong the advantage goes to the attacker who was offside and caused the defender to touch it. When Harry Kane is free on the edge of the box, ball coming towards him, how is he not at that point clearly looking to play the ball or at least challenge for it? You don't have to touch a ball to "play" it. Just turning and positioning of our body to get a shot in with your first touch is surely "playing" the ball to some extent.
