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The Breakfast Debate

Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ellandback, Feb 5, 2018.

  1. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    We are treading water, and making a bit of money. Nothing has really changed and this is still basically Cellinos business model.
     
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  2. MIGHTY

    MIGHTY Del-Boy

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    Its an Italian model Glory but as said before it works if you can pick from the top table even you and me could do that <yikes> playing the lottery is a whole different ball game,
    you will go nowhere until you either get a bottomless pit of dosh (new wealthy owners) or Rad changes to a British model Orta has to go <ok>

    do you want the money or first team success Rad is happy making money
     
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  3. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    Agreed. He has already taken us as far as he can. A few posters outside the ground ain’t going to be enough.
     
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  4. ristac

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    Okay, been thinking about this logically..

    1) Club has said no further comment - usually they would say something along the lines of the process of a new appointment will be thorough blah blah blah.... This suggests to me the replacement is already lined up meaning someone who is currently out of work?

    2) Club dismiss Butler and the fitness coach so surely confirming the new man has been spoken to and he wants to bring in his own assistant possibly two others with him? Assistant going means nobody to pick the team so the new guy(s) are going to be here within the next 48 hours?
     
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  5. BillysStatue

    BillysStatue Well-Known Member

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    Morning all ... the king is dead, long live the king ... thanks to Tommy for doing his best, good luck wherever he lands

    this new manager thing is getting a bit much now, but here we are again looking at possible replacements ... for me, there are three names that I feel would settle in and do a job at Leeds ... Marco Silva, Slaven Bilic and Nigel (even though I'm not a fan of his) Pearson ... all no nonsense who are good at what they do

    DARK HORSE ... Alex Neill at Preston is doing great work, and remember he made Hamilton Accies look like Celtic for a while before turning Norwich around ... still feel he was unlucky to lose his job at Carrow Road, but Delia panicked

    BIG NO to Mick McCarthy, his teams have been exactly the same forever ... I remember seeing his Sunderland team at Highbury, a team of dead slow giants who lumped everything up in the air ... two season later his Wolves team were an exact replica, and now Ipswich are pretty much the same ... no thanks, Mick is very one dimensional and he is only good for keeping your club in mid table

    BIG NO to Grayson, he simply lacks intelligence ... again, Grayson is limited and won't progress as a manager ... he does his "best" work when he's at smaller clubs where there is little expectation, struggles when the chips are down

    MAYBE ... Steve McLaren did excellent work over two spells at Derby, and he was let down by his players bottling it at the big moments ... yes, his Forest spell wasn't that good but he was hampered by a tool of an owner there ... with Boro he won the League Cup and reached the UEFA Cup Final, no mean feat ... winning the Dutch title with unfancied FC Tewnte was also a superb achievement considering he had to get past Ajax, PSV and Feyenoord ... if McLaren is given the backing and the time at a club, he will do a good job, the only problem he suffers from is the England legacy just like Graham Taylor did ... I'd give McLaren a go, but the concern is that the fans turn on him after one bad result
     
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  6. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    Ristac maybe the reason the fitness coach got the sack because he wasted a week in Spain and players looked lethargic?

    Big Mick but employed, Wheres Pearson at? Love it to be Silva and hes available as I think the new coach will be. Not Monk hes too devisive and not good enough without Clotet????? Clotet would do a job until the end of the season and maybe Grayson would do it temporary and if he does a good job gets to keep it in the Summer?
     
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  7. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    I see Rad is no longer god... He never was.
     
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  8. MIGHTY

    MIGHTY Del-Boy

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    HAHA beat me to it <laugh>
     
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  9. RCDM

    RCDM Well-Known Member

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    He's a d**k but i'd take Pearson right now.

    Or Silva
     
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  10. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    In which case it' McCLauren. He was in the directors box on Saturday
     
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  11. patb

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    swap deal mcall from bradford (just been booted) for tc <laugh>
     
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  12. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Nope. According to Phil ay McCLaren was there as a guest of Paul Butler. New Leeds Manager to be announced quickly as in the next 24 hours.

    My guess us Glory as Manager, 60 as his assistant and Shako in charge of the refreshments
     
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  13. Jammy 07

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    Have come to the conclusion that if my first choice of Marco Silva is unobtainable then there is only one man for the job...and it is

    Gordon Strachan.

    If you think about it we want someone who can handle Radz and Orta and Strachan fits the bill perfectly. He will take absolutely no nonsense from them and drive them on to do better as he passionately cares about Leeds United.

    The players will be left in no uncertain terms what is expected of them and anyone falling out of line will get a proper in your face verbal thrashing.

    And finally he can unite the fans and the city to get right behind him.
     
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  14. ristac

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    If it was a temporary guy in charge then surely Butler wouldn't have got the chop, Butler wasn't appointed by Thomas which is a bit strange as the coach/manager usually wants to pick his own right hand man? The clear out suggests to me that the new guy is going to be permanent, well we all know permanent at Leeds rarely reaches 12 months

    Marco Silva - I'm not convinced on him, his win percentage in the UK is very poor, I guess it is the best we can get in regards to who we can attract given present circumstances.

    Paul Heckingbottom - Two decent spells as caretaker but when given the job fulltime he also has a poor win percentage.
     
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  15. ellandback

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    A lot of blame should be pointed at Leeds fitness coach Ivan Torres He was terrible.
     
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  16. southernwhite

    southernwhite Well-Known Member

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    You know what fair point,youve changed my mind on big mick,just shows how hard it is to get an appointment right,best of luck to the board & radz on getting this right.:emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  17. southernwhite

    southernwhite Well-Known Member

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    Pearson for me please,thats one vote,would be interesting to see the result, if someone could start a voting thread as i am not sure how to do that.:confused:
     
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  18. ellandback

    ellandback Well-Known Member
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    Strachan now 4/1 favourite. I remember bumping into him when he was at Southampton. At the time Leeds were in a similar position -Managerless, and I asked Gordon, when are you going to take the Leeds job. He told me I've got to be kidding. With all the problems at ER (at the time) it would be the last place he would go.
     
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  19. Brendan Sheerin

    Brendan Sheerin Well-Known Member

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    Has anything really changed?
     
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  20. leeds60

    leeds60 Well-Known Member

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    Since when I have I being talking to you
    You are way out with McClaren and I still think you will be wrong with the foreign coach Marco Silva for as I said on Saturday He did a sterling job at Hull
     
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