With all due respect nothing to do with you sticking with Lee , unless of course you have influence over the only person whose decision it was to keep Lee, SL, and as my previous post no one , even SL himself ,knows what would have happen had he decided to replace Lee. Lets just all be happy we are where we are, we are all city fans wanting what is best for our club, there's no point looking back and trying to score points over others who held a different view to yourself a year ago how best to achieve that goal, much better we all pull together, COYR
assume doesn't know Every interview was pretty clear even after 6 or 7 losses SL WAS STICKING about as close as he got to thinking was a statement that said if it didn't sort itself they may have to consider thinking of alternatives, even dropping a division!
I am out of the LJ discussion, the bloke has proved himself on football, Steve Lansdown extended his contract earlier and that was it, decision made, that is why the guy is a bloody billionaire, it had nothing to do with anybody but SL's personal faith and belief in LJ, he is a great owner, thank god we've got him to make advanced decisions and forward planning. LJ has so far proved him (SL) correct but he has still achieved nothing and advanced no further than his dad or others have, I really hope he does, I love his style of play.
My post said "as my previous post no one, even SL himself , knows what would have happened had he decided to replace lee". This is obviously true because he decided to keep him , there is no way of knowing what would have happened had SL let Lee go. I then went on to say just be happy where we are and nothing gained by point scoring over differing opinions last year and let's all pull together .
I think what the likes of me are saying and it's not in the way of point scoring, is that some fans and SL could see what LJ was trying to do and the way he was looking to play in the way of style...with a knee jerk reaction after the bad run last season, many would have sacked him. It's not easy getting the right manager (SOD, McInnes, Millan) and at the time, as pointed out by myself and others there were not many decent managers available that would look to do any better.......In my opinion, taking a knee jerk reaction and bringing in "any manager will do" would have, I believe taken us down and we would not be in the position we currently find ourselves in...... As Wizard has said we've not won anything yet apart from nice comments from top managers etc from the Prem.....but we are all enjoying the quality of the football and the journey, it's so far taken us..,
Derby and Villa have directors of football in place but the one that spring s to mind in another division is Les Reed at Southampton. # I believe the owner and the manager needs to be reading from the same hymn sheet to create success, (LJ & SL currently) more often than not that doesn't happen ... At City that has to happen because of the clubs transfer policy and what going on with developing players . And if you are right We would have been in the Premier years ago ... Don't understand your point??? Plenty of clubs that are currently struggling in the Championship recently in the Premiership chopped & changed the manager thinking it would improve them but hasn't or didn't ... ... Don't understand your point again??? I think its weird to think if Lee Johnson had gone the philosophy being put in place costing huge sums, that effort would have been abandoned. This is they way the club is going to run,
You have named only three clubs, two, just beginning to show signs of success, nothing compared to the clubs that have failed. Because you don't understand...SL has been at the club for quite a few years now, with your theory, he should have had such a manager in place years ago playing in the premiership....but In my opinion, the only decent managers he brought in is GJ, SC to get us out of League 1 and LJ..... And the 2nd point you didn't understand, in my opinion is self explanatory!! I also think that philosophy of the club would demand the right type of manager to implement what is required for success and again would require to read from the same hymn sheet.....LJ matches this requirement in my opinion..
Man City and Chelsea have dof. Success there. All the clubs that fail with Managers running the show how many are there? How many get into serious trouble? Clubs being run entirely different now to when Gary Johnson was in charge. SL has changed his thinking about how BCFC will be ran. Yes I do think he should have done similar years back not because it would be 100% succssful but because its a better way to run a football club than when Bristol City only a few years back were overspending massively each season. Without SL the club was bankrupt. I think the way City is ran is more sensible having people with football knowledge making big decisions for the long term that say buying more David James and Nicky Hunts. Spending money on the academy rather than those tow makes sense to me. Of course the club would need the right type of Coach Manager to run it as it is now. That's the point. Because the next person in after LJ will have to do similar.
Then why oh why do certain supporters keep harking back to that losing run we had last season, drives me potty...Im just so pleased to have been proven right about LJ when last season I took some fearful stick for believing in him.
I do like the way Man City are run, but not sure about Chelsea though....don't like what they do for young academy players within the club, had it not been for the money from Mr Oil rich, I believe they would be close to bankruptcy the way it's run..
It's all very well saying 'told you so' but let's be honest it could have gone either way. A few more defeats last season and Lansdown would have had no choice but to either sack Johnson or run the risk of relegation....again Football and indeed life is all about decisions made and sometimes luck as well. As I said elsewhere, even a blind pig finds a truffle occasionally.
Know where you're coming from Angelic, but I think it was more of a calculated risk by SL......I think he could see with LJ (like some of us!!) that we were the odd goal/defensive error away from being a decent side.Yes could have gone either way, but that could also be said had we brought in a different manager...in fact, I'd go as far to say, it would have been more risky..
I don't think it matters anymore, we have all got to move on, I have, LJ is our head coach and things without a doubt have improved, have we bridged the gap or are we just walking the plank as the new folk say, it does not matter one iota what LJ camp we were or are still in, we are all Bristol City FC fans and support the club we love, opinions are valid and as has been said we are all entitled to them. I hope our luck continues and it's all good for all of us including SL & LJ.
I agree mate, it's going well so far and like, I imagine all the City fans, it would be great to have a go in the Premiership...it's been so long since being in the top flight and it's only us old ones that had that enjoyment...... But I will say, I am really grateful that we didn't go the Warnock route as the football we are playing is a delight..(just to stir Sparkey up)!!
Academy players? Chelsea and Man City look after their very young players more thoroughly than BCFC do. There is not so much difference in a mercenary sense in the way Chelsea and Manchester City conduct elements of player (young) purchasing. Manchester City, Chelsea and Bristol City would all be bankrupt if it was not for their owners. Manchester City, Chelsea are financially more secure if they had to repay their loss and debt using future guaranteed income. Pretty sure Amnesty International have no concerns about Mr Lansdown and human rights as they do about one of the former ...
Can't compare BCFC to Man C or Chelsea for obvious reasons.......Just makes me laugh that Chelsea couldn't field a top class striker last night with all the money and academy they have.....is that well run? Not in my book. They buy young players so other clubs can't have them or to have control (The Russian way)......by the way, I don't dislike Chelsea and they have had more success than most, just don't agree with their methods......my opinion!!
Bristol City can be compared with any football club when it comes down to how it is ran as an FC. Loss or Profit. Manged debt or something else. What changes is scale. Models of youth development and the principles present are also comparable. They buy young players so other clubs can't have them or to have control (The Russian way) .... Man City do the same. Man City as part of City Football Group are seeking to hoard payers globally.
Scale has been the issue for me Well I may get to dislike the methods of Man C as well......Chelsea have been doing it for much longer and with such blatant arrogance along with ridiculous manager changes......you will say that their method has brought so much success and I acknowledge that fact.......Just don't agree with it and hope BCFC will take a different route..
