Match Day Thread FA Cup 4th Rd Liverpool v West Brom

Mane & Salah would make runs knowing Coutinho would find them or exploit the space, they now seem to want to get on the ball deeper as they know we can't find their runs.

 

to be honest it's always been that way. They tend to add **** all injury time in the first half no matter how many goals or time wasting has been going on and tend to add more in the injury time of the second half. Does my goat in. I would rather they just stopped the clock everytime the ball is stopped dead

 

Added time is always 4 mins no matter what happens.

 

yes. its stupid.

They are told to not mess with the TV schedules. That my opinion. There is a bucket of expected added time that TV can handle and get their ad breaks and bullshit in.

If you have 8 mins extra on first half then their ads are all messed up.

They have a standard catalogue i think

1min on first half = standard
3 mins = one team is winning easy
4 mins = game is by one goal and i booked a few guys (standard fare, 2 subs per side etc)
5 mins = **** i need to help the top 4 side out.


You have to lose a leg for any more time to be added one.

 

Most games see six second half subs. That's 3mins before even considering injuries or goals scored.

Used to be against the idea of having a stop-start click like rugby do but I now think it would be better. It would stop some of the feigning injury and late subs nonsense too.

 

yeah but most teams hold the last sub til injury time to time waste or cover gk issue etc.

so its actually only 2 subs each



the main issues i see are:

a) GKs holding ball for 30 seconds everytime they get it in their hands
b) goal kicks taking 30 seconds to a minute. There's 4/5 GKs infamous for it
c) subs walk/fake run form far side of pitch over to subs clapping fans and shaking hand with refs etc to time waste.
d) throw ins taking 30 seconds to take... minimum as a guy crabs up the line or two guys touch it before the ball actually gets to hands

For me theres more like 10/15 mins of a game half gone on this ****e rather than subs.

I think the refs just don't stop watch and they go right. 5 yellows... that covers me in the discipline review as well 2mins for yellow. Right.. how many goals 3.. right another 1minute for celebrations. add on 2 subs a piece and that gives me a safe 4 or 5 if game is tight.

I really don't think they give a damn what time really should be added on as they indulge all the time wasting.

Look at mourinho teams.

he drills them to

a) stand over the ball at any free
b) kick ball away if whistle is to be blown.
c) make sure ball goes well out of play for throws, into crowd... never will anyone touch the ball or give it back to a rival team if it comes near them. Including bench/subs etc.
d) his strategy at start of game is to have the likely sub offs to be playing on the far side of pitch so they can walk off slowly and get a minute off the game clock.

Every little effort is made to prevent as many chances as possible... and if his side happens to score a goal sometime great.

I would do have the ref miked so we can ALL hear everything and he has to say time off to stop clock. then he's directly accountbale and has to actually ref the game for time wasting.

Right now all they do is blow a whistle at random times and avoid controversy.

 

There would still be some faking to kill off momentum and rest a bit

 

of course.. sitting on the pitch pretending to have ripped your hamstring until the ref stops the game then hobbling off and stringing back on.

Refs should immediately give yellow card for that or better still if they need to go off have 5 min compulsory treatment in a designated area beside 4th official.

 

Would love to see that implemented, sick to death of seeing grown men screaming in agony and staying down because someone left a leg out - have they ever heard themselves!?

Have a bit of self respect for **** sake, I used to get the **** kicked out of me as a small nippy striker but would never let anyone of them know if it actually hurt!

 

Things that happen in injury time should still be added too.

Couldn't be arsed to read the rest #intentionallongpost

 

I think you're giving them far too much credit here. I doubt they even think about it bar a long injury stoppage. I think their thought process would be "as there been a small, normal or large amount of stoppages" before stocking an imaginary wet finger in the wind!

 

They wouldn't need to worry about that with VAR active

 

yeah i think its just regulation. 3mins if they just want out of there. a lot of cl games go that way.

4 mins for regular prem game and 5 is someone got upset.

 

ok you got me it was.

I could have call you all sorts about half way down though... just saying

 

With an in-play clock there is no injury time anyway.

 

Take your point here, but I do think we score enough goals to win more points than we're currently getting. Our defending is what's letting us down. We're never going to win every game, but reducing the goals conceded by even say 25% would probably be enough to get us another half dozen points in the season.

 

Has to really

results say the following:

Watford 3-3 2 dropped as we were not playing well but went down then got to 3-2 then las min mistake on corner. wijnaludm at near post
C.Palace 1-0
arsenal 4-0
man city 0-5 - bad day at office but were 0-1 down when mane sent off. klavan asleep and aguero striaght in.
burnley 1-1 -
Leicester 3-2 - think a couple shoddy goals her.
newcastle 1-1 - 1-0 up and absolutely threw in equaliser. CBs miles apart no midfield screen.
man utd 0-0
Tottenham 1-4 - Lovren panic stations. 2-1 down at HT. then mingolet mistake.
huddersfield 3-0
west ham 4-1
Southampton 3-0
chelsea 1-1 - freak equaliser
stoke 3-0
Brighton 5-1 - I seem to recall their goal was a shoddy set peice?
Everton 1-1 - lovren again. disaster pen
West brom 0-0 - didn't play well...
Bournemouth 4-1
Arsenal 3-3 - 2-0 up and threw in 2 goals.
Swansea 5-0
Leicester 2-1
Burnely 2-1 - scraped the win
man city 4-3 - 4-1 up and threw in 3 goals again
Swansea 0-1 - VVD flogged off corner

So TBH we have had a decent season there. Lots of goals. Take 25% off there and We wouldn't say draw at watford, everton, arsenal and newcastle and as a result should be 2 points above utd in 2nd place.

We've done well in general as we've been winning against the lower teams but if you look closer at the better teams


arsenal 4-0
man city 0-5
burnley 1-1
Leicester 3-2
man utd 0-0
Tottenham 1-4
huddersfield 3-0
chelsea 1-1
Everton 1-1
Arsenal 3-3
Leicester 2-1
Burnely 2-1
man city 4-3

those are all top half sides 13 games played 22 conceded 25 scored.

Watford 3-3
C.Palace 1-0
newcastle 1-1
west ham 4-1
Southampton 3-0
stoke 3-0
Brighton 5-1
West brom 0-0
Bournemouth 4-1
Swansea 5-0
Swansea 0-1

Bottom half 11 games played: 31 scored only 8 conceded.

The trend says decent teams will score against us. we are actually conceding (nearly) 2 goals a game agaisnt the top half.

that is frankly shocking even as i type it out.

 

I'd kick the ****s back, and often did

 

Pathetic isn't it?
Diving, pretending to be hurt etc are all considered legitimate arts and are being coached to kids and condoned by the "he felt contact so he's entitled to go down" brigade.
It's embarrassing.

 

And yet when a foreign player like Salah gets yanked back in the box by some English donkey the same commentators whinge "it was a bit theatrical"

#racism