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Video ref to be trialed...

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Dec 7, 2017.

  1. SydneyTiger14

    SydneyTiger14 Well-Known Member

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    How many tight offsides are there in a standard match for them to even consider sending upstairs? Especially ones that result in goals? Maybe 1-2 at the very most? And most matches will have none.
     
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  2. balkan tiger

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    I don't think they can review ordinary offsides only debatable goals.
     
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  3. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator
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    They can only be referred to the VAR if the result in a contentious goal, it's estimated that there'll be no more than one referral every three games.
     
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  4. Amin Yapusi

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    But what about when someone gets played through 1 on 1 onside but very quickly incorrectly ruled offside before they get to score the goal? Do we let an offside run until the phase of play is over and then declare it offside in retrospect? How's it going to work for the multitude of penalties that are corruptly not given against the big sides? If Iheancho had taken a touch first last night would his goal still have stood or wouldnit have been offside and a free kick before there was a goal to decide over?
     
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  5. Walter Sobchak

    Walter Sobchak Well-Known Member

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    No. He would've been ruled offside as the VAR isn't allowed to check.
     
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  6. Amin Yapusi

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    Then if it can't be diverse it shouldn't be used in that situation. It's got to be all or nothing. I don't see the harm in using it to see if a goal or a penalty that has been awarded have been done so correctly. One thing it definitely should be used for is identifying diving, cheating little rats and the referee should be notified ready to punish the offending player next time the ball goes out of play.
     
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  7. Walter Sobchak

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    I think goal line technology is fine and punishing diving cheats but apart from that I'd leave the rest.
     
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  8. dennisboothstash

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    Fascinating...although irrelevant

    I disagree with your view on VAR’s worth
     
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  9. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    We'll have to agree to disagree as I've yet to hear a convincing argument as to why we don't need it.
     
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  10. dennisboothstash

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    ...and I’ve yet to hear a convincing argument why we do need it

    That’s how disagreements work
     
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  11. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    You literally said that in your last post. I'm not interested in convincing you, the people that matter have already been convinced.
     
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  12. dennisboothstash

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    Nope
    Read it all again...slowly.

    There you go
     
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  13. HCAFC (Airlie Tiger)

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    Right, you're trying to argue with me on two separate threads and failing on both, let's not waste each other's time and ruin the threads, enjoy your evening :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  14. dennisboothstash

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    Alan Nixon’s tweet tonight about the penalty shout suggests the VAR system may not be as good as some think

    “The first VAR fail. What was that about?”
     
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    Thought Willian should have had a penalty not a yellow card, Spanish divers got their just deserts.
     
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  16. Amin Yapusi

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    Sounds like the video operator (Bsc hons) had some fun tonight in the Chelsea game.
     
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  17. Amin Yapusi

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    Just watched it. Agreed, he won that penalty fair and square and was well entitled to go down IMO.

    Harsh not to give the penalty, a booking for diving is ridiculous.
     
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    As giving a yellow card is not on the list of VARable reviews, wasn't the fault with the Ref, who should have actively sent the decision for review as a potential penalty, rather than with the VAR official, who, by the laws of using VAR, wasn't able to overturn the decision unless he was asked?

    This isn't a problem with VAR, it is a teething issue with refs getting comfortable using it. To be expected, and certainly not a VAR fail, as if there was no VAR, exactly the same outcome would have been arrived at.
     
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  19. Walter Sobchak

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    The Ref couldn't consult the VAR last night.
     
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  20. SydneyTiger14

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    So you're guessing based on someone's tweet rather than seeing the incident yourself?

    FFS, that's why some of us are fed up discussing this with people who are so set in their luddite ways without a shred of compelling argument on their side.
     
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