Totally agree but it’s not just that we’re playing **** that becomes the main factor for most I feel, but it’s one of a number of factors. Using myself as an example, new job paying far less than what I’m used to getting, new shift patterns, kids getting older, my elders doing other things on a Saturday and not making the games, tickets being readily available.......all things that can individually be solved...but put them all together, along with the state of our football, and it makes not renewing more palatable. No excuses...just a shallow ****er being honest
My shallow ****ers description wasn't aimed at you Stainesy (or anyone else on here for that matter), but at people you described who would stop going just because we weren't winning, or we are not in the Premier League. It seems to me that the management, staff and players currently at QPR care much more about the club (and by extension you and me) than any group in recent times. Redknapp, Hughes and their mercenary bunch of recruits treated us with disdain and I would have understood anyone who stopped going then, but surely it's better now?
No offence taken mate, but I’m thinking a lot of the people who don’t turn up nowadays are in the same thinking and will, like me, find reasons not to renew or turn up. Let’s me honest, a ST these days can be a big investment (I’m in the cheap seats) and anyone who doesn’t turn up ain’t getting their money back.....so I’m pretty sure it isn’t being shallow but some kind of statement of where the club is. These are people who have been going for years and it’s just that some have now really had enough. Why now, who knows.....
Staines when we last met in the Crown (you sat on a stall by the window) I was saying to Tooting and Nines that I was enjoying meeting up with them more pre-game than actually watching the match. Under Holloway last season the football became stale and too predictable. It got to a stage where I couldn't be bothered to turn up. My ST is gold (upper Loft) and I missed between 6-8 home games which ended up being more expensive for me. Football is an entertaining sport that you are meant to win, it is as simple as that. I never buy into this "we are 17th so what's the problem"? or " I don't care if we go down I will still go". That is a stupid mentality. I think many of our fans have seen so much dross of late that they will accept anything. Whatever happened to the art of playing good entertaining football? We used to play great attacking football (maybe a few years ago) and need to get back to it. I can see why many fans like myself cannot be bothered anymore and it's down to the manager and the board. Agree we have got rid of wasters who never cared for the club but a few footballers and a decent manager would go a long way. When people refer to us as 'shallow ****ers' I believe they are missing the point. It's not that I don't care about my club, it's because they don't care about me.
To be fair, as I said before, for most I don’t think the crap football is the only reason, but more of a contributing factor..... I followed England home and away for years and to be honest it was never all about the football, ‘cos a lot of times we were utter ****e, it was more a chance to socialise with your mates that you don’t see normally and to have a drink and a laugh. For me Rangers used to be the same but I’m now finding myself getting there just about in time for kick off.....circumstances change.
I have ST and will renew whatever. I go with the attitude that I will get whatever entertainment I can from that couple of hours. If the highlight is the hot chocolate then so be it. It would be nice to win a bit more than we currently do!!
