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Holgate and Firmino incident !

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  1. Peej

    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    It’s also helped FSG sell the jewel in the crown to #balancethebooks.

    Coutinho paying for Salah and VVD.

    #calledit
     
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    Thus Spake Zarathustra GC Thread Terminator

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    As opposed to whatever happens it's not Holgate's fault, yes. If there is no evidence that Bobby said anything racist (unlike the Suarez case of there being no evidence of him saying anything except that he immediately owned up to) then the burden of proof should switch to Holgate and his motivation for making this up. The stakes are that high - if Firmino has racially abused him his career with Liverpool should be over: if Holgate has made it up to avoid punishment (and don't give us that crap about a 'misunderstanding') then his should be.

    Game on. I've placed my chips, where are yours?
     
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    Drivel, it's worse than that - Coutinho will be paying for Lemar for at least treble his worth (when we eventually get the staggered payments out of Barca over the next two decades).
     
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    Holgate's mates forced him to post homophobic slurs. Lallana forced Holgate to concede the penalty. Firmino forced Holgate to assault him. Madley forced Holgate to put his hands on him. Matip forced Holgate to let Van Dijk in for the winner.

    #prayformason
     
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    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    just the extreme views im seeing on both sides
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I will await the report.

    He escaped a certain yellow, was the ref distracted by something. Whatever happens, his time with Liverpoool isn’t over, he has value.
     
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    Yes, by Holgate's manufactured tantrum.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    What......

    Are you avoiding the FSG firesale to balance the books?

    #calledit
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    you are assuming nothing was said. I accept your stance.
     
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    Wish we had a billionaire like Moshiri who waits until Barkley is #confirmed gone before letting you buy a striker for £27m <laugh>
     
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    I am assuming nothing racist was said, nor actually heard or 'misunderstood'. There's no middle line on this - one of them is lying: who gained the most? The man who should have been sent off, that's who.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Sent off for a push?
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    But that’s okay, Barkley is ****.

    So is this player.

    But FSG using this to hide #firesale

    To #balancethebooks


    #calledit
     
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    You know full well the danger the push posed, that's like saying 'sent off for a kick?' - well yes if it's studs first into someone's knee cap.

    Circumstance
     
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    Dangerous, violent conduct, yes: and a push on the referee.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    I remember a Liverpool player being a hero for a two footer in Naismith.

    Another for a studs up on Nani.

    Funny how when rolls are flippe it’s time for a hanging
     
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    The ball had gone out of play and Holgate had no other intention than to push Firmino into the boards and the crowd. So his actions were to solely injure Firmino. Could easily have properly injured him, infact I bet if Firmino didn't react and stayed down like a good South American Holgate would have been gone and got a 3 match ban.
     
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    Not true: the issue is that neither of them tried to play a bogus race card to avoid punishment.
     
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    Peej Fabio Borini Lover

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    Let’s wait and see. I don’t want you to have a major humble pie slice IF he is proven guilty. Nobody really knows.

    But the ref has a mic, what did that pick up?
     
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    I will eat humble pie IF there is any evidence that Firmino did wrong, but let's get this straight - Holgate's own victim blaming, as Bobby is the real victim here, should not come without any consequences. He can't just call that to avoid punishment then still escape scot-free when the evidence unravels. Both sides in this are facing humble pie if they're wrong, not just Bobby. And that includes Sun columnist Ena Shearer too.
     
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