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Robinson's future thread?

Discussion in 'Charlton' started by deleted....., Dec 31, 2017.

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Should Robbo go when we get new owners?

  1. Yes, immediately

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  2. Give him to end of season

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  3. No, we need continuity

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  1. deleted.....

    deleted..... Well-Known Member

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    With the sale progressing (seemingly) rather slowly, what is the future of the Scouser?

    I am not his greatest fan, his post match interviews and silly man mismanagement stunts (only six subs at Sarfend) really pi55 me off..... but..... do we really need the upheaval of another management change?

    For me I think the new owners should say to him... "you built this team to get promotion so to keep your job after May the players MUST get you that promotion"... "you have till the end of the season to prove you are the right man"

    Can't help feeling that if Robinson was sacked then Bowyer and Skipper would go to... which would be a shame.

    <cheers>

    AllHell
     
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  2. lardiman

    lardiman We can rebuild him Forum Moderator

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    :emoticon-0152-heart Heart says I would like Robinson to be given until the end of the season, to see if he can pull the promotion rabbit out of his hat.
    But only for that reason.

    :emoticon-0126-nerd: Head says our promotion push is virtually over already.
    And new owners almost always have a plan to put their man and his people in place.
    If the old regime's manager is not sent packing straight away, he knows his days are numbered anyway and the extra weeks it takes to trump up a reason to sack him is just wasted time.

    I feel no connection to Robinson at all. He's Duchatelet's man.
    If the new owners give him his P45 straight away I could not care less.

    I would be sorry to see Johnnie Jackson dismissed immediately as well though. His long service to the Club deserves respect, and how the incoming administration treats him will be a measure of their attitude towards Charlton fans, and the things that many of us feel are important.
     
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    Get rid, regardless.

    Too rigid and limited tactically, too wedded to a system we don’t have the players for. And too full of sh1t.
     
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    I’d like for him to be given a chance, but if the owners have any doubt then he has to go. I’m not a fan of token “chances” before bullets are bitten 5 games in to a new takeover.
     
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    Give him until the end of the season, so the new owners don't have to rush the appointment of the new man.
     
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    Hopefully SCP comes back with Peter Varney, Rick Everett & Big Dave Lockwood.
     
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    You forgot to add "with Sue Parkes as communications director"
     
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    The Usual Suspects are getting very ahead of themselves over on Charlton Life

    #hubris

    CARD’s gormless cabbie Alan Davies thinks he is Field Marshall Montgomery.
     
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    For many on them on there the uppermost thought will be whether the new owners will allow them to feather their own nest again.

    #Prioritycafc
     
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    I can give you the names now of the fans who will be beating a path to the new owner’s door.

    #BigDave
     
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  11. ForestHillBilly

    ForestHillBilly Well-Known Member

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    Isn't BDL working at Ebbsfleet now? I'd like a more low-key announcer. Brian Cole was good first time round, but jumping in the way he did wasn't right, but I expect he'll stay.
     
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  12. lardiman

    lardiman We can rebuild him Forum Moderator

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    Unfortunately 'low key' is obsolete these days.

    For some reason everybody seems to think :emoticon-0171-star: :emoticon-0164-cash: SHOWBIZ :emoticon-0164-cash: :emoticon-0171-star: is the way to go.
    Goal music, half-time shows, jingles, glitter, fizzy pop:emoticon-0159-music<magic><bubbly>
    Every event has to be the most amazing thing ever seen, every experience has to have more <cracker> than the last one.

    More sense and less sensationalism would be very welcome, but I fear those days are gone.
     
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  13. Ken Shabby

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    He hasn't convinced me. He's too married to one idea and a dream of a league title he won years ago. But he's been working under Duchatalet which is a handicap. Plus a change of manager now is just another plunge into the unknown. He can certainly stay till season end regardless. That way new owners (if they arrive) can see him in action, and he can maybe work with some strikers.
     
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    If the poll doesn't change then like the EU Referendum I would expect everybody to get behind 'the people's' decision and support the Manager till the end of the season.

    Does anybody have a problem with that?
     
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    lardiman We can rebuild him Forum Moderator

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    I support the team - the 11 men who take to the pitch with our badge on their shirts.

    When they win a game, how much of that win is down to their own skill, dedication and teamwork and how much is down to the tactical nouse or inspirational ability of their manager, is always a matter for debate among fans.
    And the same applies when they fail of course; how much was down to mistakes, lack of commitment, how good the opposition were or how badly the gaffer got the tactics wrong.
    But in the end it's the players I go to the Valley to see, and how well they conduct themselves playing for the pride of our Club and community during the match. The great saves, tackles, interceptions, runs, passes, and goals of course,

    If a manager has already served our Club well in the past as a player (like Chris Powell) he will already have my respect. A manager coming in who has no previous connection to CAFC will have to earn that respect.
    Anything he might have achieved for other Clubs is worthy of note, but not automatic respect in my book. What a manager has achieved for other Clubs is of little importance to me - I don't support other Clubs. It's what he does for us that matters.

    Since he came to Charlton Athletic, Karl Robinson has managed our team for 51 league games.
    The team has won only 18 of those games. That's a win rate of less than 36%.
    The poorest of any 3rd tier Charlton manager in 90 years - aside from Russell Slade.
    To me that is failure, and I don't respect failure.

    Also Robinson has freely chosen to work under the RD regime and defend their policies at times.
    Unsurprisingly that has not endeared him to me either.
    If he cannot do the most important job he is there to do - win us promotion - then I am not going to support him.
    I would not actually boo him or chant against him at a game, but neither will I sing his name.
     
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    After today - he hasn’t got one.
     
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    He'll last until the takeover, unless the Owls take him before that. Roland would probably demand compensation.
     
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  18. lardiman

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    Now there's a thought. Maybe they would like to buy a few players as well - Ben Reeves and Mark Marshall for example?
    The former was nothing short of a disgrace to the shirt yesterday, and the latter had the poorest game I have seen him play so far.
     
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    Sometimes you just wonder where David Brent ends and Karl Robinson begins.

    Take this gem after the takeover news last week.

    “Whatever happens I will walk away with my head held high. I have restored the Club’s DNA”.

    Forgive me if I have missed something, but we will have had two mid table League One finishes under Gobbo ? Gillingham have done the double over us, and other mighty local rivals like Southend have pulled our pants down too.

    Seven years in the Premier League and a team full of internationals is ‘restoring the Clubs DNA’ - David Brent has done little more than continue its decline, regardless of what his walnut sized-brain believes.
     
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  20. Ken Shabby

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    Robinson looks finished to me. His inability to fill the bench against Southend may have been a bit of brinkmanship to show the owner we need new players. It was also a resounding snack in the teeth for some of the youngsters. His over reliance on some players in detriment to others is comically bad, and I'm sure I remember him claiming to have been well backed in the summer when he got this inept squad together.

    But yesterday smacked of the same football that cost Parky his job in january a few years back. What a show to put on for prospective owners. I can picture them sitting in the stand whispering 'Ernie, remind me to knock a million off the bid price - we're going to need to do some urgent refurbishment on the management side too`. He can't really blame injuries afterwards - we played better in the second half when he changed the set up, which was regardless of the injury situation.

    I've tried to back Robbo, despite his obvious limitations as a manager, but that is mainly because I think constant change is unhelpfull, and besides we are hardly in a situation to attract anything better. Besides, RD and Daisy have shown they couldn't pick a competent manager, or back one if they did. Fingers crossed for a takeover by people with money and maybe if they could appoint a sensible 'Manager of Football' to cover that side of the club we would be off and running.

    Sorry Robbo, I changed my vote to 'leave immediately`this morning.
     
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