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Suck my balls Shelvey.

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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

    Albert's Chip Shop Top Grafter
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    Bloke is a ****ing liability.

    Sell in january.
     
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  2. General Lee Speaking

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    Neither foul was worthy of a yellow card. Harsh to be sent off for that. Their lad Holbert or whatever hes called shouldn't have been booked either. Ref needs to get himself down to Specsavers.
     
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  3. Hung Drawn and Quartered

    Hung Drawn and Quartered Well-Known Member

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    and yet Rooney kicked his way through the game and took the piss out of the ref at the end and gets nothing
    FA Rooney love in
     
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  4. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Shelvey is a magnet for trouble mate. He constantly lets the team down. Same with Mitro. We simply cannot afford liabilities.
     
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    Rooney is a **** too mate. But a **** who is better than all of our players on the pitch tonight.
     
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  6. Lord Jonjomort

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    Mate, I'm pretty sure Shelvey got sent off for no yellow cards tonight. Maybe one warning one yellow at worst. Besides which he was the only player capable of anything. Constantly trying forward passes but the useless fckers in front offer no movement whatsoever. He had two jobs, as Diame is just a black hole (not racist).

    Atsu, rubbish. Ritchie, not great, dropped deep too often. Gayle, poor. When that's in front of you, what are you supposed to do?
     
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  7. Delusional Full Stop

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    This.

    If that’s what’s required for a yellow card, either card, then football is seriously in trouble. Poor referee. Shelvey tried to make things happen, can’t say that for anyone else tonight although Lascelles gets a mention.
     
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  8. Rafa's Championship Party

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    Guy didn't seem bothered when he got sent off, doesn't need to go in either. Merino pullled out of a similar one earlier because he knew he'd get sent off.
     
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    And elbowed
     
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  10. General Lee Speaking

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    Atsu was decent first half but got snuffed out after the break. Yedlin had a good game. Again, Ritchie good first half, not so effective second. There were some encouraging signs of life at times but there was too much profligacy in possession with bad touches loose passing.

    Anyway, I think there is an argument that Shelvey shouldn't go in for the tackle that late in the game when already on a yellow but he was genuinely trying to get the ball and trying to help us get a point. I don't think people should be knocking him for that in the same way that they rightly had a go when he got sent off for that stamp against Spurs.
     
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  11. Prince Isak (GG)

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    From what I have heard and seen Shelvey got sent off because..... he is Jonjo Shelvey. There are players that the referees see and book and those that just don’t.

    Likeable players can hack the **** out of players all game and be cynical and not get anything other than a “calm down” from the ref. Shelvey makes a bad mistake and instantly gets booked to “calm him down” when in fact it puts him on a knife edge. He then does it again and “that’s it you where warned, your off”.

    Unfortunately it is his own doing and I think he needs a change of scenery and so do we. He just has the reputation now and it has stuck.

    Same with Mitro.
     
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  12. Delusional Full Stop

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    Atsu and Ritchie ran around but didn't actually make anything happen save the one shot from Ritchie. Yedlin was reasonable going forward but poor crossing and didn't command at the back.

    We kept failing to retain the ball when advancing and for that you have to look at the midfield and attack. I'm not counting the sudden team belief that Leujeune is the master at passing balls 50 yards or more which seemed to apply even more than usual last night. By the way, he's not.
     
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  13. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    Hmm this dog turd of a human being got sent off again - oh dear! Diddums! He is a ****ty human being and one that should not be on the pitch at St. James' Park unless it is for an opposing team.
     
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  14. cronemeister

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    FFS, people seem to be forgetting here that is probably one of the best midfielders we have in our squad. We are not blessed in that department so until a suitable replacement has been sought then he needs to be in the squad when fit and when available. His sending off at Spurs was just plain ****ing stupid and he deserved the flack and the extended bench warming that he got. To get on his case cos of his sending off last night is just as ****ing stupid as the sending off in my opinion. I don't mean stupid from the aspect of the sending off as he was quite rightly dismissed although he should feel slightly hard done by as both yellow cards were marginal in my opinion. The last one you could argue he didn't really need to make given he was already on a yellow but its not like he was a million miles away from getting the ball or being recklessly late. Most fans in the ground would have been on his case for not making the challenge, he was simply trying to win possession back and get the ball back up the pitch to try and get us back on level terms. Had we been 1-0 up at the point of his second yellow card tackle, he would have prevented an Everton counter-attack and potentially an equaliser by committing the foul, still been sent off but I bet 9 out of 10 people getting on his back now would have had a different opinion along the lines of "he took one for the team" and "it was a sending off worth getting". We are a fickle bunch aren't we?
     
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    I'm putting a lot of it down to general malaise and frustration, even Jonjo himself must get pig sick of lining up with Mo Diame lunbering around in front of him. Rafa's got a lot of kudos and credibility, an almost infinite amount in some fans' eyes, but I just get the feeling the players aren't quite getting it and I really fear for Rafa's future if he keeps making nonsense decisions. Let's take a look at the squad - apologies for lengthy squad porn, but I'm bored:

    IN NETS:
    - Elliot, probs a decent second choice.
    - Darlow, rubbish, should be back at Forest or similar.
    - Woodman, good young keeper, fine third choice.

    Summary; need a 'keeper, play Elliot til we get one, sell Darlow asap and curse Charnley for not taking the £6m from Boro.

    RIGHT BACK:
    - Yedlin, potential is there, more a wing back than anything but a solid second choice.
    - Mbemba, also good potential at right back, probably best option.
    - Manquillo, squad utility player good enough for EFL trophy and Europa League games.....
    - Gamez, who?

    Summary; we can do better, but failing that we should be alright if Rafa trusts Mbemba more and puts his petty feuds to bed.

    LEFT BACK:
    - Dummett, not great but clearly best we have, 4 month hamstring injury is just ridiculous.

    Summary; why the fck we left the Championship with one average left back and started the PL season with the same bloke is astonishing. Has to be sorted, key priority. Get Luke Shaw, at all costs. Work out why Kieran Gibbs wasn't taken on.

    CB:
    - Lascelles, good player, great leader.
    - Lejeune, has ability, but doesn't seem to know what a cross is.
    - Clark, he's ok, not quite mr. reliable but puts in a shift.

    Summary; we've got nowhere near enough money or desperation to fix the issues here. With a better GK, LB and Midfield we should be absolutely fine. We were for the first 6-8 games.

    MIDFIELD:
    - Shelvey, talented footballer, bad temperament, and carries a very specific role - not sure it's right for the shower of **** we have up front. Want to see him play with decent attackers before final judgement.
    - Merino, best footballer we have, young, can learn, need to keep him and build around him.
    - Hayden, bit headless. Not the vision to be a good DM, not enough talent to be box to box. Decent squad option.

    Summary; that's it. Technically Slo-Mo is allegedly a midfielder, but is so utterly gash I'm not writing his name down. Colback's also been binned, the talented Dan Barlaser can't get near this squad so one must assume he's also ****. Or just not a friend of Rafa. We need to invest heavily here in a top quality DM, aim as high as we can such as Carvalho of Portugal.

    WINGS:
    - Ritchie, effort but tried too hard, gets caught out, points the finger a lot. Not sure.
    - Atsu, so much ability, so little product. Could come good, think he'd do better with a more solid team behind him.
    - Aarons, believes his own hype, not seen much to suggest he'll be the saviour.
    - Murphy, again potential is there, but no end product. Really shouldn't even be at the club as we had priorities over and above having three left wingers.

    Summary; it's really not a terrible line up. I think the key problem for our wingers is having no attacking threat in the middle. There's neither someone to aim at nor anyone making runs down the channel, it's very static and kills our wing effectiveness. Also the link up with the full backs seems a bit muddled. Not sure better players are either available or going to make a difference, not a priority.

    FORWARDS:
    - All ****e.

    Summary; it's not that hard to see. We had to invest here in the Summer and didn't. We struggled with limited quality even in the EFL. Rafa's perseverence with a Number 10 when we don't have one is borderline dementia and relegation suicide. We should have done much, much better but the problems with Carr and Charnley killed us. No good scouting, then no good negotiating - the board, with Rafa, really fcked us up here. Probably should have taken the money for Gayle, offloaded Mitrovic, gone nowhere near Joselu and never bought Murphy. Desperately need to have this sorted out, lined up and worked out ahead of Jan 1st. If we plod through January not knowing what Mitro is doing, or persevering with fcking Joselu, we deserve relegation.

    Desperately need a LB, DM, AM, CF and GK. Absolute bare minimum in the window is 5. Get rid of Mitro and Gayle then add another attacker. Bin off Perez and Diame to add another AM and CM. 4 or 5 out (you can throw Joselu out as a BOGOF), 8 or 9 in.

    PLAYER PORN:

    - IN: Shaw, Carvalho, Praet, Batshuayi, Kiko Casillas, Ings, Saiz, Sturaro.
    - OUT: Mitro, Gayle, Joselu, Diame, Perez, Gamez.

    We have a spineless team. Literally. There is no central axis. Benitez should have been aware and fixed this instead of bringing in **** like Joselu, Manquillo and adding Jacob Murphy.

    Under Ashley, never going to happen. Thankfully that fcker won't be in charge. Still be a miracle to see those kind of numbers appear.
     
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  16. Warmir Pouchov

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    I don't rate Shelvey very highly. I think he flatters to deceive.

    However he didn't do anything to get sent off last night. Absolute bollocks in my opinion.
     
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  17. Darren Peacock’s Ponytail

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    FFS - he shouldn't be anywhere near the team

    I don't care how good he is - he is a turd of a human being and so long as said turds get way with things the more turdish things these turds will do.

    Also, Merino and Hayden is a better partnership - Rafa just needs to do some defensive coaching with Hayden.
     
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    hayden for me is just as a very limited player , also merino ends up doing his job for him ...need someone new ..if bauldy is going to be more times off the pitch than on ...
     
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    He is limited hence me saying Rafa needs to work with his defensively.

    However, that combo is better than Shelvey and Merino.
     
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  20. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Never been a fan of Shelvey and still aren’t. Players are paid big bucks not just to play but to set an example. His record stinks and I wonder how many more sendings off he’ll have until he is seen by all for being the high risk liability he is. We shouldn’t pipe the bloke off because of the odd Hollywood ball here or there.

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