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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Itchen North Matt, Aug 21, 2011.

  1. Itchen North Matt

    Itchen North Matt Active Member

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    It's overrated IMO. Players like Lallana, Lambert and Connolly have got where they are not because they are lightning quick, but because they are mentally sharp, skillful and read the game unbelievably well. It's a problem with English football that it puts physical prowess over guile and it's something we need to be taking the initiative to change.

    I'd bite the bullet and go all out to bring Jay Rod to the club because I believe he trumps the other lot of potential strikers for general quality and goalscoring potentiall.
     
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    How can pace be overrated? you gotta have a certain amount of pace to be able to become a professional footballer,although there are some exceptions.It's good to have a blend of everything in a team,clever players,big players,fast players and hard players,you need all types to progress in my opinion.
     
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  3. MMJ

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    strength is too overaqted, spain and barca have a team full of quite small players, and look how fooking good they are
     
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  4. mightysouthampton

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    Pace can win games because they can get up the pitch faster and create more chances ;) But i think we need some pace after Chambo left.
     
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  5. Saints_Alive

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    Yep. I agree...that's why I think that Rickie and Conners will play until their late 30's barring injuries. Teddy Sheringham had football intelligence and played at a high level until he was 40. You don't need to be fast if you have understanding with your teammates and you can tell when Adam celebrates with Conners just how much of a rapport they have with each other. Rickie has always had a quick football brain and his link up play is why both Pardew and Adkins always select him, he is the focal point of our attack not just in the air but on the deck too. People say he would struggle with the pace of the Premier League but I still think that he would score goals there.
     
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  6. fatletiss

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    It's actually about having the correct blend in the team. One of the factors in that blend is some pace.

    Pace on it's own is not much use, agreed, but with the right ability, brain and put with a good team blend, it is priceless.

    To take the Barca point on strength, apply it to speed; they have some real pace.
     
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  7. Itchen North Matt

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    5 games played, 5 games won, some scintilating football. Why?

    Just saying that there are more important things.
     
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  8. st_brendy

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    I didn't really notice us being affected by a lack of pace this season (so I completely understand where you're coming from)....until the final 15 minutes on Saturday, when I suddenly found myself crying out for some. De Ridder wasn't enough for me.

    Under last season's rules, with 7 man benches, this wouldn't be a problem. We could have included Forte within the squad. But with all due respect to the lad, he's not good enough to make the final 16. So I would like us to sign someone pacey who is good enough to make the cut.
     
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  9. fatletiss

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    Because when we get into the season and find ourselves chasing games or teams have shut us down and stopped us playing, it gives another option.

    Yes we are playing some great football, but there will be times when the guile and craft doesn't work.
     
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  10. Tony Montana

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    Its always good to have pace in your team but you have to utilise and channel it in the correct way to get the results. Personally I think we are fine for pace because we are letting our passing and the ball do the work after all it's quicker if Morgan sends a super diagonal pass to guly/Lallana/fox/de ridder in behind rather than having someone sprint 2/3rds up the pitch on there own.
     
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  11. mightysouthampton

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    My point exactly.
     
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  12. JDub

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    All we need is a CB, a pacey Striker and 7 subs being allowed again.
     
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  13. RorSFC

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    I disagree. You need height and strength for set pieces, especially in the English game. Arsenal are a prime example - look how many set piece goals they conceded last season. In La Liga, Arsenal would be brilliant...
     
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    I disagree. You need height and strength for set pieces, especially in the English game. Arsenal are a prime example. The number of set piece goals they conceded last season is ridiculous. In La Liga, though, Arsenal would be brilliant...
     
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    I disagree. You need height and strength for set pieces, especially in the English game. Arsenal are a prime example. The number of set piece goals they conceded last season is ridiculous. In La Liga, though, Arsenal would be brilliant...
     
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    Exactly,it's all good at the moment with the team but there will be a time when we will have a dodgy period when a different option will be needed,i feel a pacey striker would be a blessing,not a necessity but would definitely be a bonus.
     
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    Pace is good but strength & an experienced head reading the game is just as important.
    A player that has both is a premiership player.
    So in a championship side good to balance strikers with a bit of each.
    Lambo strong tall & can read game well alongside Connolly who is shorter & nippier & so clever with his positioning.
    Compliment on another.
     
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    I remember Liverpool fans being disapointed when Bob Paisley signed Kenny Daglish from Celtic to replace Kevin Keegan who had left to join Hamburg and Bob responded by saying that what mattered for a finisher was a quick brain - because that quick brain was worth 2 yds and there were few defenders able to make up that difference once that foward broke free. BP knew a thing or two about football and their fans soon stopped complaining about Kenny's lack of pace.
     
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  19. Martysaint

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    I did when Richardson was being completely roasted by Bouazza! But then Bouazza had no product so it shows that pace isn't everything!
     
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  20. Itchen North Matt

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    Pace is useful to have, but being a complete player gets you further. That's the point I'm trying to make. Nothing against pace, but it shouldn't be a prerequisite of a player if he has the qualities we are looking for. Intelligence and creativity buys that extra yard and correlates to better end product when it comes to players we can attract/afford. On the whole, Championship teams can't attract players with everything and its worth thinking where we need to prioritise.
     
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