Match Day Thread 2017/18 Premier League, Cups & Euro Watch

Third in the league, making champion league for three consecutive years, also above Liverpool in the league for three or more consecutive years is something to write home for Spurs fans.

 

Your club. Just answer the question.

 

do we win a prize if we get the correct answer ?

 

It's already a disappointment of a season. Anything said now is just making the best of a bad lot.

Making that best would be

A) 6th min in table. = Europa league

B) last 16 of cl. We will get hammered but we have no business not getting 2nd at least having seen maribor and spartak.

C) I would like a decent fa cup run. That means if draw is anywhere kind that we would be in 6th round before playing a decent side and from there a sf is possible. The draw could put us away to city in 3rd round so... well.. we can but try our best.

That's us making do with a season where imo we ****ed the transfer window up and really have gone backwards

 

This is about definitions. Success surely must be about winning trophies, titles. A "successful" season then would be for us winning the title or the CL (or to a lesser extent the FA cup)

I presume what we are talking about above is a "good" season. A season that we can say we have maintained momentum or improved from last season.

A good season for me would be:

Top 4 in the premiership or better
Q/F or better in the CL
A good run in a cup competition: FA cup runners up or better.

 

And the context is spurs building for 5 years. 2 season running in cl spots. Goldon boot shoe in (pun intended) playing for them and best defence in league.. apparently.

Spurs are serial bottlers.

Lfc are just amateur bottlers.

 

A) no chance
B) would need massive luck in draw
C) fa cup final? Jeez... need a bit of luck with draw too.

For me as off a good season puts a trophy on the table. We are in 3rd season post 2 summers with klopp and so transitions should be over
It's time to deliver

 

Cannot agree with you more.

What you are saying that having a good season is now very much based on luck. We shouldn't revise our definition of a good season based on our awful start.

 

Well then the answer is to win any trophy thus securing Europe the following year and ideally get into cl.

4th to 2nd on its own imo is not a successful season... its a progression and opportunity to build.upon but you have to see that 10 years ago no body remembers who finished where in 2007 bar the champions and perhaps who won the cups

 

Unfortunately the way football is at the moment, no season can be considered good or remotely successful if the club does not get a CL place next season. Even if we win the FA cup and get to the CL final. That's now the minimum requirement

We desperately need to break that one CL campaign in two/ three cycle.

 

Agreed. If you're going to do anything, do it to the best of your ability.
In the dim and distant past, I was apprenticed into an industry where quality was paramount - get it right no matter what it took. Years later I went to a new firm, doing the same job, but the owners' attitude was more "near enough is good enough - as long as we get paid". This wasn't entirely their fault - the economic times they were a-changing - but I found that change of priority really difficult to take in.

I've often said on here I don't blame players for not being good enough, but I will condemn them for just not trying hard enough.
As for trophies, I don't count the one-off show-piece money spinners - Charity Shield, Super Cup, etc - but any cup that takes a bit of effort to win is worth having imo.

 

And yet, you started this discussion with a dig at Spurs for something you cannot possibly achieve. You might not like them, but they should be applauded for the way they have progressed the last few seasons.

 

Should they?

Can't see why, they've won the same amount of silverware as us and all other teams that have won jack **** during their progressing seasons, they haven't even finished as high as us in Suarez's last season here.

Take a look at the bitterness on their board for all things Leicester since their title win and you'll see why most supporters of other clubs don't applaud Spurs.

 

I don't like Spurs, but ridiculing their steps of progression because they haven't won anything is daft. They are going forward, while a lot of other clubs are falling behind. I suppose its different for you lot, who are in the belief that next will be your year, but I'd like to see the charts show my clubs steady progression season after season.

 

Get to ****, if you want a serious discussion stop with the stupid "next year" crap.

So pointing out that Spurs ain't won anything when they haven't is daft?, Until they actually do win something they haven't progressed, unless you reckon perpetual failure is success.

 

I not le tissier has basically ripped into Utd in picking a spurs/Utd combi ed 11.

De gea is in
Matic is in
Rashford is in.

I think he got panicky then cos he stuck in pogba as a dm to make up the numbers to some respectability.

Basica

Selective post reading acting the wum = no response required.

 

No point I told him clearly the score.

Spurs are serial bottlers. They blew up at let Leicester have it by 10 points

They blew up c Chelsea in fa cup sf.

They've thrown the Europa league 3 times

They've blown the league cup more than once


As I said it's a pretty decent bet they will be looking at no trophies again this year.

 

Excellent point of view. A bit.of extra effort can usually be seen when a.big game.turns up on tv or if a real sniff of a trophy turns up
..yet... the wages are huge enough at I think we should.expect that but extra more often.

 

The brutal truth is that the only teams being historically successful in the last 10 years or so are Utd and Chelsea and in last 5 years City (and Arsenal to a lesser extent with 3 FA cups in 4 years). You also have to mention Leicester due to the astonishing nature of their Title.

Trophies won in the last 10 years (no com shields or other glorified friendlies)
Utd 10
Chelsea 9
City 5
Others 5
Arsenal 3
Liverpool 1
Spurs 1

As for Spurs they are undoubtedly progressing but until they win big on a regular basis they can't really be successful IMO, just like liverpool TBF.
A league cup every 10 years isn't really going to cut it.

In the long term no one (bar a teams own fans) remembers finishing 2nd in the league or losing a final. History only remembers winners. It's that unbroken success that builds a dynasty.

As for the top 4 and CL it's brings money and prestige but I doubt many fans consider getting dumped out at the group stage or absolutely hammered in the last 16 as successful.

But then again, i'm not from the Far East, America or an Accountant, so what the fook do I know.