haha, I did think you meant a holy book to be honest. Lots of ex addicts "find god" when they get clean. Again, far be it from me to judge, if it keeps them clean....but I still don't think it is an achievement. It is replacing a fun, but potentially deadly, vice, with a safe, but god awful, ****ing boring one.
No they don't find God mate. It's purely a term as the book was written in the 40s in America. It's a higher power, could be anything. Most people use GOD as meaning...good orderly direction. Seriously not many ex addicts turn to God. That's an old myth.
Always pick your barman day 1, give him a very generous tip and bingo he's your bitch for as long as you're there.
Easy to scoff mate, but unless you've seen proper alcoholics first hand I think that's a very glib statement tbh. An alcoholic is addicted to alcohol in the same way a crack addict is to crack, the physical withdrawal is similar, and thus the dependency. Someone who's gone down that road can't meddle with it, their rule is that it's not the last drink that gets you drunk, it's the first one. Heavy drinkers cutting down is different, as they're not physically addicted and can often skip days without a drink no problem, but proper alcies know that once they start it'll only end one way.
Deserves its own thread this ****. Interesting reading. Although you'd never guess, i'm partial to a pint or ten.
Sorry Bod but what a load of horseshit. Of course it's an achievement, they've stopped a very dangerous addiction that's horrendously damaging both physically and mentally. It depends on the person but most alcoholics end up at the all or nothing stage to be honest, I had a fairly bad drink problem when 16/17 and was told by my alcohol worker that was likely where I'd end up if I didn't stop... Once you're an alcoholic you are one for life regardless of whether you drink or not You've also got to bare in mind the impact addiction has on people around the addict too, sorry Bod but it's poor form to say it's not an a achievement and strikes me as someone who's never had any issues with substances. Seems pretty naive imo.
I have had plenty of problems in my life with substance abuse mate. My dad died of Sclerosis of the Liver and throat cancer caused by alcoholism and one of my best friends died of gullet cancer caused by alcoholism. I apologise for saying its not an achievement though. Preventing your death is certainly an achievement, so I probably spoke too glibly there.
Fair enough mate I meant personal experience really as in using yourself. Don't have to apologise mate I'm not offended Glib probably the right term, when you see people who are a long time clean and have turned their life around, and the impact it's had on them and their loved ones, then it's most certainly an achievement.
