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Match Day Thread Champions League Group Stage: Liverpool Vs Sevilla

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  1. Milk not bear jizz

    Milk not bear jizz Grasser-In-Chief

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    No... We also had a crap attack and crap midfield under Woy.
     
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  2. Thus Spake Zarathustra

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    They'd struggle with Everton and Uniturd to get past sixth place in the Prem.
     
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    I was annoyed at the penalty miss but not that bothered because I thought we were going to score a hatful in the second half.and it wouldn't matter <laugh>
     
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    But if the ball is bigger then the increase in goal size will be neutralised. It needs to only increase in size as it approaches Lovren please. Otherwise great idea <ok>
     
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    Doubt that, Sevilla are a decent side. Finished 4th in La Liga last season, only 6 points behind Atletico.
    Quite different from the side we faced in the UEFA Cup final but still a dangerous team
     
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    When the draw came out I thought we and Sevilla would be the ones to come out of that group. Last night doesn't change that.
     
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    We typically get better results away from home than at home.

    Sevilla are the top ranked seed in our group.

    We drew (and mostly dominated) our toughest group game we will have. I would say barring major screwups or bad luck we are on course to top our group.

    Now after that... Who knows?
     
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  10. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Just because it's a home game and we were 2-1 up and should have been 3-1 up.

    Disappointing, but beat Maribor and Spartak at home and beat Maribor away that's 10 points with spartak and Sevilla away as bonus games. 10 points generally sees your through in 2nd.
     
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  11. The Ides of March

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    In other groups, the one with Bayern and PSG, both of them should at least get 12 as a minimum. It then depends how they carve themselves up. Both will be thinking they o not really want to face Barca, Real, Atletico, or even the Manchester sides and Chelsea so they will be watching to see where these guys finish in their groups.

    Your group will be a lot tighter and it could boil down to the head to head. So if you finish level with Sevilla and the return tie is drawn 1-1, they are ahead. Draw 3-3, you go ahead. Your's is one of those group's that is going to be tightly contested.
     
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    Who said we were increasing Karius' goal size <whistle>
     
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    Maybe Arsenal with fifth then.
     
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  14. Milnermino Lamborini

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    Defending will stay as is until the January window.

    However our counter attacking is ****ing rapid. There is part of me that thinks there is a side who will get a serious beating. There were times the ball moved up the field in such breath taking pace it was a marvel to watch. Shame the finishing was suspect. Salah had one of his better games and I am waiting to see a fully fit Coutinho feeding that front 3.

    It is interesting to see how Klopp will use Ox and Coutinho (who looked off pace or still not in the right frame of mind). Looking forward to Burnley even though I don't think we will keep a clean sheet
     
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    I'm looking at Klopp for this one. Some games you have multiple chances but can't convert them all. From the 60th min on wards the game started tailing off. At that point you have to bring Milner on for Can and just see these type of games out. This is European football and we need to be smarter.

    Our back four is just awful and they don't trust the keeper and that is a recipe for disaster. I like Gomez but a make shift right back who is limited with the ball and not attacking minded does not suit our team. If we had Rafa in charge then Gomez would be fine, we have a manager who needs both full backs to go up and down and Gomez wont do that, that isn't his fault at all.

    Lovren is just a terrible player, he seems to have forgotten the basics. There was one part where he ran out with the ball, looked up and immediately ran back and got tackled. Shows a player with no confidence.

    Moreno is just a broken record. Great going forward, positioning defensively just dreadful.

    I like Matip but cmon.
     
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    I can see us easily getting out of the group stages. Most pundits (and the odds computer!) puts us the most likely English team to go to the knockout stages.

    But coming first is crucial if we want to progress well into that phase. We surely do not want to meet the top teams like Real Barcelona Bayern Juventus early.
     
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    Not always as simple as that. Juventus and Barcelona are in the same group, as are Bayern and PSG.
     
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    These teams being in the same group does not mean we can't get any of them in the knock out.
     
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    Agree with all of that, but they had Gary Gillespie on 5 Live last night and he was saying he'd never survive as a CB in the current Liverpool philosophy (I'm sure I heard him say even Hansen and Lawrenson wouldn't) , which is essentially your two CB's back and eight forwards in the the other half of the pitch. As he said, if all your midfield has joined the attack (which is practically every time we go forward) you need your full backs to stay back, but Moreno -and to a degree Gomez - were playing as inside-forwards, never mind wingers, on Wednesday, and all three midfielders were with them too.

    This is brilliant and exciting stuff, but once we get ahead in Europe in these group stages we really need to think of the three points and just hitting on the counter. All that said, I remember the (justified) flack Monginho took for the defensive, anti-football, petty-fouling, time-wasting approach Chelsea took to the 0-2 win Anfield in 2014, but I remember Fatty Samuel in the Mail (a writer I hate but totally respect in the same amounts, if that makes sense) pointing out that Chelsea had the players to do that, and it does take some skill, training and organisation to execute (and hard work - I'm sure I read somewhere that Lampard ran that much he shed 3 kilos). We didn't have those players, and we don't now.
     
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    I think we need to realize when to see a game out and when to attack. At 2-1 and missing the pen the team talk should've been to slow the game down, give fouls and just make it awkward to see this game out. Bring Milner on and then Oxlade to run around for ten mins.

    Instead we go out in the second half and played badly but still had intent on attacking. We need a midfielder who will just sit. Matic/Kante/Kroos type players. Lucas would've been ideal last night. Would have definitely picked up a yellow but would have sat back and allowed everyone else to do what they need to do. Even Allen would have been a good choice.
     
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