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  1. Albert's Chip Shop

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    Looks like things have escalated again in the past 24 hours with the big nuclear test.

    Trump is talking about cessation of trading with any nation who trades with North Korea.

    Where will it all end up?

    Jak- what's the feeling in the region right now?

    My mate in Beijing says the Chinese are mightily pissed with Kim right now.

    Dark times.
     
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  2. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    At least the west doesn't have it's own nutter with his finger on the button...........

    Oh ****!
     
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    Dark times indeed :(
     
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    It's what happens when the lunatics run the asylum.
     
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  5. Hung Drawn and Quartered

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    If the Chinese can't reign him in then no one can
     
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    It really is worrying for me as a dad. It's only the innocents who end up suffering.

    I think the only way out long term is for Kim to be taken out of the equation. Ideally by his own people/generals.

    Communism can only really fall when the people take matters into their own hands.

    The worry with NK is that Kim controls reality. I heard that the North Koreans think they have actually won the football world cup several times!
     
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    Appeasement isn't working with these ****ers. They need removing from power and their missile sites/facilities destroyed.

    The fat ****er needs to create these missiles/nukes or he'll be assassinated himself by his generals etc.
     
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    Trump says a lot of things, mostly complete bollocks.

    Equally I heard that some people think the Chinese may be helping the North Koreans develop their bombs.

    I'm not losing any sleep over it.
     
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    I'd imagine Russia will be the ones supplying the nukes.
     
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  10. Joelinton's Right Foot

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    North Korea probably isn't that worrying in itself. I suspect they still have very limited capabilities. They could be the catalyst/excuse for something much much worse though.
     
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    We need to take him out ASAP.... His own people are suppressed, murdered and tortured.
     
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    Had to double check that this wasn't a thread about Ashley there for a second. <laugh>
     
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    Actually here in SE Asia there is a lot more feeling about the increase in Chinese influence over the region. Think the reason the Chinese are worried about North Korea as it focuses Trump on the area and draws attention to their actions in the South China Sea. Last thing they want is the US Navy sailing around in what they see as their waters. They would much rather he kept away and they could keep up the land-grabbing in the Spratleys and Paracels, giving them control of a potential major hydrocarbon resource.

    Having said that I can't see them ever agreeing to allow the US Navy to make a significant strike on North Korea and so anything the US might do will increase tension in the region.

    And that's all from Sky News - back to Sky Sports where Breaking News is that Rafa is now odds-on favourite to be the next PL Manager to leave his job but ACS has covered his back with an Insurance Bet on Bilic being the first one fired.
     
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    De Boer actually....
     
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    So while the rest of the world worries about Trump and Kim arguing about nuclear war, we have Albert and Jak arguing about the De Boer war!!
     
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    this could end up serious
     
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    I think I am being misrepresented here. I am obviously concerned about the situation in North Korea but I also feel that ACS insurance bet is outside the remit of an insurance bet. Surely if Rafa is going to leave to take the West Ham job then the insurance bet must be Bilic being sacked.
     
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    Kimmy is obv complete bonkers.

    Hope/think chinese will just have him put down. He's gotta be their biggest threat to their national security. How could china risk a war at their doorstep?
     
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    Idiot leader blinding the masses and leading his country into oblivion. And then there's Kim Jong-Un
    He needs to go, but his whole dynasty has for years. Expect us to be having this same conversation in another decade
     
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  20. Warmir Pouchov

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    This little dance in Korea has gone on for years now. I'm not overly concerned. There is a bigger strategic and economic picture to it all anyway. America would like to see a unified Korea, with a pro western government in place. We keep hearing that China probably have very little desire to see this short term with North Korea providing a valuable buffer from having US troops right on its doorstep. Its all kinda daft really, if they wanted to attack each they don't need to be particularly close to do so. It all seems a bit meaningless really.

    China is probably more concerned that if it backed stronger sanctions (cut off oil for a start) and North Korea did fall apart overnight, then it would probably see a load of refugees pouring over its border. They don't need that financial challenge to add to their own. The Chinese are not very open about these things but I would imagine a unified Korea is probably appealing to them economically. Trade wise the replication of the buoyant South Korean economy across the whole area as opposed to the broken North Korean one it currently trades with is probably very appealing.

    China is in a tricky situation. It along with Russia has provided North Korea with support and defended them. Essentially it has provided both with a handy little tool to stop the US making too many inroads into the region. Its further complicated by Russia and China, although aligned somewhat, both wanting to assert their own influence over the region and being in competition in this regard also.

    The bigger picture is these global superpowers are playing tit for tat, using North Korea as the ball in their silly games of ping pong. So whilst the threat of North Korea having some sort of nuclear arsenal is of course concerning, it is being very much hyped up by the US and its allies. In turn that situation is then being hyped further by the other two superpowers. If there was any imminent danger I think all three would shut it down pretty quickly.

    What doesn't help of course is having a number of fairly massive egos involved in this whole charade - Trump, Putin, Kim Jong Un. Perhaps Trump and Kim Jong Un will end up sitting down and Trump will simply accept North Korea having these weapons. At the end of the day, North Korea has no intention of stopping no matter what is threatened, while it seem unlikely China will cut them off and cause a collapse. Trump being a business man could easily surprise all and sundry by completely altering his approach.
     
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