Barton wants our support for Hillborough. Why?

Joey, as much as I love you, your randomness and passion..........this asking everyone to sign the Hillsborough e-petition is frankly a waste of time. The aim of these petitions is that ones attracting 100,000 votes get the chance to be debated in parliament. Jeez, we've more than enough on all our plates .....riots/recession/jobs to give this the time of day.

I'm going to upset a few folk on here but I'm fed up with this "let's find the truth" line about Hillsborough. It's 20 , yes 20 years old and still getting dragged up.
Yes it was sad, yes, any loss of life is regrettable.....but please let it go. There have been millions spent on hearings and courts. The only people getting rich are as usual the lawyers.

The Yorkshire force fully accepted the findings of the Taylor report, that the police were primarily responsible for the disaster, and Taylor's criticism that they failed to accept responsibility at the time. End of.

There's a very old saying........what's the difference between a cow and Hillsborough. You can stop miking a cow for all it's worth. That's not meant as a sick joke ,It's true.

 

I actually agree with you. Eventhough it should be remembered for the disaster it was, that's all it should be; remembered, not more court cases and more blame pointed at people.

 

I hate to be controversial but i don't why there are some many things like this about Hillsborough. It was a terrible thing to happen but far worse things have happened in this world that most people dont even know about let alone make online petitions about.

 

He's only asking 1/4 of his followers to spend a minute signing it, hardly asking you to sacrifice your first born at dawn to the great lord Tioté or face the consequences. I don't see how getting this debated in parliament is going to detrimentally affect your lives?

 

All we are saying is that there is other things happening NOW which should spend time in parliament, not something which happened 20years ago.

That's what I'm saying anyways.

 

So what you're saying is, if one of your immediate family died, and they were then disrespected by the government and police force making lies up about them to cover their own backs, you wouldn't want to know the reasons for that cover up? You'd just say "Oh, it was a full 20 years ago now, I'm over the whole thing" ?

Anyways, if it's such a burden to read or hear about then just unfollow Barton if you don't like it, surely its easy enough to do.

 

There is such a thing as moving on in life, everyone deals with death and I know that this circumstance is slightly different but people still need to move on, and I'm sure a lot of them will have

 

Are you lot saying because it's a while back and because other bad things happened that the people who are to blame should get away with it.

Sorry to to say but I disagree entirely

 

They want closure before they can move on, surely you understand that.

 

These individuals are beyond understanding but I am 100% behind you

 

Are you suggesting they still have no understanding of what happened that day? Inquests have been done to death, football stadia infrastructure has changed dramatically as a result of those inquests and teh events that day.

Nobody has as yet suggested the victims and their families dont deserve our support in some way, merely that a parliamentary debate will yield nothing new and help nobody, and at a time of serious domestic social unrest and a capitulating economic world (which will effect everybody in this country for generations if not addressed soon and properly) MPs time shoudl be used more constructively.

 

[QUOTE="not" geniusvoiceoreason;1086937]Are you suggesting they still have no understanding of what happened that day? Inquests have been done to death, football stadia infrastructure has changed dramatically as a result of those inquests and teh events that day.

Nobody has as yet suggested the victims and their families dont deserve our support in some way, merely that a parliamentary debate will yield nothing new and help nobody, and at a time of serious domestic social unrest and a capitulating economic world (which will effect everybody in this country for generations if not addressed soon and properly) MPs time shoudl be used more constructively.[/QUOTE]

I would suggest if any member of my family was killed I would want some ****er to pay for it . I wouldn't simply say oh never mind and piss on their grave in doing so. SIMPLES

 

[QUOTE="not" geniusvoiceoreason;1086937] MPs time shoudl be used more constructively.[/QUOTE]

Like helping me with my spelling!

 

[QUOTE="not" geniusvoiceoreason;1086937]Are you suggesting they still have no understanding of what happened that day? Inquests have been done to death, football stadia infrastructure has changed dramatically as a result of those inquests and teh events that day.

Nobody has as yet suggested the victims and their families dont deserve our support in some way, merely that a parliamentary debate will yield nothing new and help nobody, and at a time of serious domestic social unrest and a capitulating economic world (which will effect everybody in this country for generations if not addressed soon and properly) MPs time shoudl be used more constructively.[/QUOTE]

If those papers don't include things that people don't already know, then why is the current government trying to block the release of said papers?

As Tony Barrett (Times journalist) said on twitter, If the Hillsborough documents incriminated fans & exonerated police they would've been published years ago.

 

Yes, let's all move on and forget about history, it never repeats itself afterall...

 

Do you think we could 100,000 signatures together to get a debate in the House Of Commons about what our fecking owner is doing to a once great football club?

 

Yeah, great, sign the petition (why not?). As long as it is put aside until the fear of an economic crisis is over, and all our problems with the riot's aftermath etc..

 

try id sign

 

I hope this is some kind of joke..............

 

Good to see Joey using twitter for something useful.

20 years is a long time to still not know the full truth. The families deserve closure.

The way parliament works, it wouldn't affect anything else.

I've signed anyway.