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saintKlopp said:
This is going to be a controversial point of view, but what the hell?
I didn't want to sell Coutinho at any price because I wanted to see him with the current front three. However, if Klopp has had enough, and we can't keep him - I really don't want to see this huge figure that everybody seems to see as the minimum requirement.
Even £90m is a ridiculous figure, and anyone who can't see that needs to take a step back and try to apply some perspective.
We can't be blinded by the absurdity of the Neymar transfer into thinking that is now the yardstick. Do any of us really want to see the transfer market scaled up to this level? Yeah, it would seem great for LFC in the short-term, but where will it lead? That amount comes in the through one door and it'll be straight out of the other. All our prospective "customers" will apply the same logic to us as we're applying to Barca, and in the end nobody will be getting any value for money.
The only people who actually benefit will be, as ever, the agents and facilitators. When clubs make a lot on transfer fees they have to spend it back in order to keep up. Agents' fees are just draining the money out of the game into private pockets.
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Ive said its a bubble many times mate.

The tv companies are trying to clamp down hard on streaming.

Sky are splitting sports into packages to try hold share as they know its too expensive.

The issue is 90mil for coutinho is 5 years down the pan of development when you pay 70 min for keita at 22 and hope he is as good as klopp thinks.

We need our reward for developing coutinho from a boy who was failing at inter to a guy playing for brazil at 25...

120mil imo is huge. 100mil up front. Get it done and buy draxler and that cb and gk and kieta too... team improved overall.
 
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moreinjuredthanowen said:
Ive said its a bubble many times mate.

The tv companies are trying to clamp down hard on streaming.

Sky are splitting sports into packages to try hold share as they know its too expensive.

The issue is 90mil for coutinho is 5 years down the pan of development when you pay 70 min for keita at 22 and hope he is as good as klopp thinks.

We need our reward for developing coutinho from a boy who was failing at inter to a guy playing for brazil at 25...

120mil imo is huge. 100mil up front. Get it done and buy draxler and that cb and gk and kieta too... team improved overall.
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I said it first, nuh-nuh. :emoticon-0172-mooni

Seriously, the TV companies will only stop people wanting to stream by giving people what they want. They'll have to try and get regulations changed so they can sell individual packages to each team's supporters.
No disrespect, but who outside of their own small fan base wants to watch say, Burnley against Huddersfield - if they can watch their own team? In fact, what fan wants to watch any other game rather than their own?
I'm aware that they don't show 3pm matches because of the fear it will impact on gates, but I wonder how much difference it would really make.
They can keep trying to block streaming, but people will find a way around it, and the battle will go on.
 
saintKlopp said:
I said it first, nuh-nuh. :emoticon-0172-mooni

Seriously, the TV companies will only stop people wanting to stream by giving people what they want. They'll have to try and get regulations changed so they can sell individual packages to each team's supporters.
No disrespect, but who outside of their own small fan base wants to watch say, Burnley against Huddersfield - if they can watch their own team? In fact, what fan wants to watch any other game rather than their own?
I'm aware that they don't show 3pm matches because of the fear it will impact on gates, but I wonder how much difference it would really make.
They can keep trying to block streaming, but people will find a way around it, and the battle will go on.
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to be fair, anyone whos really into their footie and doesn't have a wife (or said wife is on holiday) i'm more than happy to just watch whatever games are on tv unless chelsea are playing.
 
BobbyD said:
to be fair, anyone whos really into their footie and doesn't have a wife (or said wife is on holiday) i'm more than happy to just watch whatever games are on tv unless chelsea are playing.
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That's why I said "rather than their own".
 
saintKlopp said:
I said it first, nuh-nuh. :emoticon-0172-mooni

Seriously, the TV companies will only stop people wanting to stream by giving people what they want. They'll have to try and get regulations changed so they can sell individual packages to each team's supporters.
No disrespect, but who outside of their own small fan base wants to watch say, Burnley against Huddersfield - if they can watch their own team? In fact, what fan wants to watch any other game rather than their own?
I'm aware that they don't show 3pm matches because of the fear it will impact on gates, but I wonder how much difference it would really make.
They can keep trying to block streaming, but people will find a way around it, and the battle will go on.
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I agree. The day that they make the teams available to each supporter live... say 20 quid a month for 100% of games then that will be that... but thennnn oh... tv deal is blown isnt it.

It will prob be 50 a month
 
saintKlopp said:
I said it first, nuh-nuh. :emoticon-0172-mooni

Seriously, the TV companies will only stop people wanting to stream by giving people what they want. They'll have to try and get regulations changed so they can sell individual packages to each team's supporters.
No disrespect, but who outside of their own small fan base wants to watch say, Burnley against Huddersfield - if they can watch their own team? In fact, what fan wants to watch any other game rather than their own?
I'm aware that they don't show 3pm matches because of the fear it will impact on gates, but I wonder how much difference it would really make.
They can keep trying to block streaming, but people will find a way around it, and the battle will go on.
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you're suggesting people are only getting sky to watch their own team on tv? I've just pointed out i'm happy watching any team if its on the tele
 
BobbyD said:
you're suggesting people are only getting sky to watch their own team on tv? I've just pointed out i'm happy watching any team if its on the tele
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Theres a lot of us who are no longer that pushed mate. Theres not enough time in the day.

On the other hand my mate with the kidney failure would sit there all day and watch every league going.. which is prob why he needs ro lose 10kg before they will operate
 
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BobbyD said:
to be fair, anyone whos really into their footie and doesn't have a wife (or said wife is on holiday) i'm more than happy to just watch whatever games are on tv unless chelsea are playing.
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I used to be like that but too much often bores me nowadays so only watched Liverpool.

Never watch internationals bar the European Championship and World Cup
 
BobbyD said:
you're suggesting people are only getting sky to watch their own team on tv? I've just pointed out i'm happy watching any team if its on the tele
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Ffs, Bobby. No. I'm saying people stream games because they can't watch all of their own team on Sky or BT,
"Rather than" not "other than". It doesn't mean you wouldn't watch another game, only that you wouldn't watch another if your game was available.
Only plassies would do that. <whistle>
 
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saintKlopp said:
This is going to be a controversial point of view, but what the hell?
I didn't want to sell Coutinho at any price because I wanted to see him with the current front three. However, if Klopp has had enough, and we can't keep him - I really don't want to see this huge figure that everybody seems to see as the minimum requirement.
Even £90m is a ridiculous figure, and anyone who can't see that needs to take a step back and try to apply some perspective.
We can't be blinded by the absurdity of the Neymar transfer into thinking that is now the yardstick. Do any of us really want to see the transfer market scaled up to this level? Yeah, it would seem great for LFC in the short-term, but where will it lead? That amount comes in the through one door and it'll be straight out of the other. All our prospective "customers" will apply the same logic to us as we're applying to Barca, and in the end nobody will be getting any value for money.
The only people who actually benefit will be, as ever, the agents and facilitators. When clubs make a lot on transfer fees they have to spend it back in order to keep up. Agents' fees are just draining the money out of the game into private pockets.
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Why? Barca have £200m in their pocket, and if the boot was on the other foot, like it was over Luis, they'd ****ing stamp for all their worth.

Everything you say after that is true, but irrelevant. Sure, if we get £135m (and NO agents' fees, ffs) that'll mean, as it did with Andy Carroll, that it's passed on when we go to buy someone, But I sure as hell would rather pay £10m over the odds for Keita and put the money in Leipzig's pocket (and or Soton's too, for all their arsehole fans on here), than in Barca's.

I simply cannot understand, after our dealings with Barca over Luis and Masch, why anyone would think otherwise. 'Let's all be nice to other and stop this madness now that poor Barca are suffering'. **** that. Stop the ride AFTER they've puked their ****ing guts up, not before. ****ers.
 
Liverpool FC ... Kopborn of the House Anfield, First of Our Name, the 96, King of the Boot Room and Coutinho, Khaleesi of the Great Grass Stanley Park, Breaker of Barcelona, Mother of Liverbirds
 
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