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We'll Buy No Good Players and Get Relegated

Discussion in 'Newcastle United' started by Beardsley's Rancid Sack, Aug 4, 2017.

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Do you agree with the above statement?

Poll closed Mar 4, 2018.
  1. Agree

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  2. Strongly Agree

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  3. John Carver is a fat arsehole

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  1. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    I cannot fathom this, mate. Not one of those is a decent PL-quality striker. Missrovic is all passion, zero ability. Gayle's managed to get injured before the season even started and Perez is too flyweight to be relied on.

    We've been using Diame and Ritchie at times up front. It's not good. Onus on Spurs to have an off day this weekend, 'cos I cannot see NUFC getting a goal.
     
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  2. RobEllious

    RobEllious Well-Known Member

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    I'd say I've seen them at no.10, don't remember hearing they were in strike. Perez didn't need the physicality when he was scoring in the prem before, his record doesn't blow anyone away but he had a habit of getting goals when we needed.
    Mitrovic fair do's, the man really has forgotten how to score but, on the upside, the wings have far better goal prowess than they've had last few years and I rate him to play the target man, he definitely has ability on the linkup, and will create space for Murphy or Ritchie or Atsu to cut into.
    Both those strikers are clearly more suited to the prem than champ so I wouldn't even use last season as a barometer. Also, clearly players will improve more for their time spent under Benitez than Pardew/McLaren/Carver.
    I'm optimistic because if I'm negative this is guna be a long boring season for me. I expect a relegation battle, so let's have one. don't know why you would be expecting us to be doing anything but hoping for an off-day from spurs mate
    They finished 2nd last season and we've just been promoted, **** all would have changed that
     
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  3. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    If we'd been looking at (for example) Batshuayi, Vazquez and Gibbs making debuts it would have been cause for optimism amongst a good number more. As it stands we've got to pick between Missrovic and Perez up front, see if De Jong or Diame have suddenly become a PL- level no.10 and watch agog as Dummett stands unopposed as our PL leftback. Again. The problem here is if Spurs play as Spurs can and we're under it from the get-go, the crowd will quickly get quite annoyed.

    You may be prepared for a relegation battle, but you're in the minority, mate, no matter how much we all know we're going to be in one. This is the problem when the owner claims "every penny" will be reinvested, then it isn't. It set the wrong expectation entirely. Ashley's a moron on so many levels it's nothing short of astonishing how much he's worth.
     
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  4. Joelinton's Right Foot

    Joelinton's Right Foot Worth Every Penny

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    That's the problem more than anything else. We're a newly promoted club and this season success is avoiding relegation. We need the crowd to be a positive for the team but it could well go the other way. Our job this season is to try and beat the teams round about us to avoid being in the bottom three. We will almost certainly take a few hammerings along the way from more established Premier League teams, never mind the top teams. Anything we get against better teams is a bonus. The last thing we need is the crowd to be negative which we all know will happen. Too many of our fans think we have a right to not be in a relegation battle just because we have a 'big' history. That is something that is earned and not something that is a right.
     
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  5. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    You're absolutely right, of course, but saying "we'll spend every penny" put the idea of £80m+ warchests in people's minds, not helped by every media outlet saying the same. Our net outlay has been around £17m, and we're still trying to flog Mitro, Riviere, Haidara and others to allow us to spend any more. It doesn't/didn't really add up and it's led to more anger around the club about Ashley/Charnley.

    We were promoted to the moneybags league, told we're going to spend and ambitions went up. When the spending didn't then happen, the fans' ambitions remain lofty, but patience is significantly shortened!! That's the fickle world of football and unfortunately that's where we are, that's what the board have created. We're up against it worse than before Ashley opened his fat, drunken gob to spout his meaningless nonsense. If he'd said nothing, we'd be less disappointed.
     
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  6. RobEllious

    RobEllious Well-Known Member

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    The day I let my hopes up by a comment from Mike Ashley is the day I will never be happy again, he's a **** merchant at best.
    I think we expected to have sold players that we haven't and there was no such thing as a figure, we have to get wages off the books it's reality. As long as Rafa has stayed and still talks about transfers as if they're joint decisions then I'm fine.
    Wages- mitro 60k, Krul 60k, Hanley 40k, De Jong-50k, riviere 30k? Saivet 30/40k, Haidara 1p
    It does add up, u bemoan Brighton spending money but check their wage bill against ours, you can't argue one and ignore the other.
    We're in a relegation battle, what club just promoted thinks otherwise? It's thinking like that that gives the media and fans cannon fodder to paint us out as deluded
     
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  7. Eddie's British Plodders

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    That's not three decent strikers (without serious suspension of disbelief). More like one reasonable striker who is still largely unproven in the Premier League and who seems likely to miss large amounts of time with recurring hamstring issues. One striker who snatches at and misses chance after decent chance, who was less than stellar in the Championship and who has showed no sign of improvement over the last two seasons. One forward who is hardly prolific and doesn't give me any confidence when we are talking about leading the line.

    Not signing the crucial addition of a proper goalscoring striker would just be the latest in a long line of Ashley gambles, hoping to spend as little as possible in the hope that we can still scrape by. It'll be an ok transfer window if we manage to get a decent striker on top of our current additions and a good one if we also add a number10. It's a failure otherwise and one that juggles with our survival hopes and therefore with the longterm health of Newcastle United.
     
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  8. leez

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    to see diame in the starting line up .. makes me just put up the white flag ......nowhere near a epl player .. pathetic really
     
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  9. Eddie's British Plodders

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    Yeah, we could have done with another midfielder too, but, well, striker first!
     
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  10. Seabass

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    If we have to end up throwing all our resources at one more signing it just has to be a striker. If we manage to get that sorted I'll be happy...ish
     
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  11. Lord Jonjomort

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    Persistent rumours at the moment that Everton will be getting Woodman next.
     
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  12. Schlem Boogerman

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    With this current squad we are not going down. The prem is vastly overrated. There is a lot of dross from 8th downwards. We have one of the best managers in the world who is intent on building a top quality squad. Squad is the word. It's gonna be a roller-coaster ride but hey, that's what I love about football.
     
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  13. leez

    leez Well-Known Member

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    nufc is a club that is just motivated by the greed of that fat **** ... how many times are you people going to be lied to . he just taking the piss out of yous .


    made my stance many moons ago .
     
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  14. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    I don't necessarily disagree about the PL quality, but I think you're kidding yourself if you think many of our first team squad aren't at that level. I'm not even convinced we'll still have one of the best managers by 2nd September.
     
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  15. leez

    leez Well-Known Member

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    i look at it this way ...


    We wonder why players will not come to this club . ( money being one )
    Also would you , join mr ashley . who really has no ambitions to win anything .
    The man is just happy to be a west brom of the epl ..
    I would say players might come and use us as a stepping stone to a more bigger club that wants to go places ..
     
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  16. leez

    leez Well-Known Member

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    all it takes is 2 injuries , say a centre back ..and say shelvey ...and thats it all fooked ...

    remember we also can not keep players fit ... think gayle has got a injury already ffs
     
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  17. Eddie's British Plodders

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    According to TV Galicia in Spain NUFC are now willing to pay the full £13.4million being asked for Lucas Perez and are in the lead regarding his signing.
     
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  18. jimileysbaldhead

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    <grr>

    Just beat me to it....
     
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  19. Lord Jonjomort

    Lord Jonjomort Well-Known Member

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    It is the TINIEST 'report' I've ever seen! It offers no direct quotes, instead it seems to just take what Rafa said post-Hellas as it's facts. The only thing that might be in our favour is Deportivo's imminent signing of a forward called Adrian. But all that does is limit the players' options by one.
     
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  20. ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter

    ClearlyDeludedGloryHunter Well-Known Member

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    Can someone please explain to me how, in particular with reference to Newcastle United, how these effing transfer windows work?
     
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