Honestly? I don't care either way. My concern for anything alive is 0. My happiest moment would be stepping out of a cave and being the only living thing left on Earth. To me if you're happy to eat bacon, chicken and beef and laud those products then you can't really get in an arse about hunting without being a massive hypocrite.
I agree with ducks, geese, pheasants, but will only ever shoot what I will eat nothing more, I shoot rabbits/ pigeons for farmers as they spread disease and the damage they can do to crops is frightening if left to get to high numbers and I will very very rarely shoot deer, this is normally done to stop inbreeding or at a farmers request to thin a heard. Quick question to you, ask you eat chicken/duck/goose/venison etc....if so do you not see how they are farmed as cruel? I'd say being left to live wild ( possibly being shot ) is a much better life then just reared for food
So you agree with killing stuff you'll eat, or if you're paid for it (I'm assuming the farmers pay you, but maybe not) Do you disagree with big game hunting because it's just done for sport? On your question to me. Yes I do eat meat. I realise that some farming for food will be fairly cruel, but by and large it's regulated and is at least efficient so there's less likelihood of injured animals surviving.
Jack Bruce: "When the wagons leave the city For the forest and further on Painted wagons of the morning Dusty roads where they have gone Sometimes travelin' through the darkness Met the summer comin' home Fallen faces by the wayside Look as if they might have known All the sun was in their eye And the desert that's dry In the country town Where the laughter sound Oh the dancing and the singing Oh the music when they play Oh the fire that they started All the girls with no regret *Sometimes they found it *Sometimes they kept it *Often lost it along the way *Fought each other to posses it *Sometimes die in sight of day Oh the sun was in their eye And the desert that's dry In the country town Where the laughter sound" -------------------------------------------------------------- *Darwin may have said it better ?
The big game question is a difficult one to give a straight answer imo, If it's black and white then yes I disagree.......but the vast amounts of money it brings in for some of the most under funded areas in the world can't be ignored, it also helps with the bigger conservation picture in those areas. I personally would never kill a "big 5" animal but I would never hound/slate/slag off someone who does, I would love to ask them what they feel they got from it though as its not really proper hunting imo.
I truly hope that the **** that murdered Cecil the lion, and all other ****s like him meet a very slow and very painful death. Oh and Sterling, it matters not what tools the ****s use to give the whales an instant death, what about the horrific stress that they must endure prior to that instant death? I can only imagine what the stench and taste of the blood of their brethren in the water must be like for them. You and others may justify it as a giant food store but for me it's ****ish in the extreme and always will be. I'm not going to debate it, not going to get into a slanging match, I'm just giving you my thoughts on the matter, nothing will change my thoughts on it, just like nothing will change yours.
Hmm A couple of other questions from that Are you really convinced it brings money in that actually gets to the people who would need it? (I'd be amazed, and I think the local people could benefit just as much from non killing tourism if the lure wasn't there of the big money for big business. I also don't buy the 'bigger conservation' argument either. I think the damage from vehicles etc causes more damage even without considering slaughtered animals) Secondly what do you consider 'proper hunting' to be?
I've travelled to watch whales without feeling the need to kill them On a boat with a marine biologist off California Genuinely the most amazing thing I've ever done Huge grey whales breaching, crashing back into the water and playing right next to us Can't imagine how anyone could kill them
Don't get me going... http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4727548/Hunters-shot-son-Cecil-Lion-lied-kill.html
My brother runs three sea angling boats off South west tip of Scotland (his son skippers another one of the three), taking serious sea anglers out. It is as close as you get to game fishing in the uk... 200lb skate, 80lb tope etc. He almost certainly has the British record for many species, but to claim the record, you have to kill it and he refuses to. He runs a tagging programme in a partnership with Edinburgh University to learn as much as they can about big fish in our waters, so tags the biggies and puts them back 'with a kiss'. He has to earn a living in 8 months. What does he do the other 4 months? Obsessed with Save our Sharks conservational group. Anytime bbc have a shark/conservation story, its usually him. There's not many people can actually build a genuine passion into a career, well done our kid x
and our Hull ancestors were very good at killing them. I still think they should have just tagged them
There are no circumstances in which lions and giraffes need to be culled ffs. Having chicken for your tea, or culling an excess of pests like rabbits or foxes is not comparable with shooting endangered species.
From what I've seen which TBH isn't much at all the money can and does help, but I'm under normal illusions that some won't, as for damage etc it will do no more or less then safari trucks etc.... As I said I don't agree on big game hunting but the hunting thats done in the UK and USA which will be 95% of this channels content is OK imo.... Maybe a little hypocritical but hey Ho
I'm just confused how you have a different view of big game hunting and hunting in general? (Leaving aside planned culling or vermin control)
The most "hunting in general" I will do if the odd bit of duck/goose pheasant shooting when either myself or friends fancy it to eat fresh (it's 100x nicer then frozen store bought) 95% of what I do is planned culling or control. I disagree with big game on the face of it as its just pointless ego boosting and trophy's for rich people. As I said though it does bring money to the areas I'm question but I'm also agree with you that the money could be enticed into those areas in better ways It's a hard one to explain on a message board and I can see I'm probably coming across a bit of a hypocrite
