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Discussion in 'Southampton' started by TheSecondStain, Jul 15, 2014.

  1. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    It would have cost about £5,000 more (out of a total spend of nearly £10,000,000) to use the higher grade cladding.

    Lives thrown away for the sake of a few quid. An absolute disgrace.
     
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  2. Beef

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    Yep rich ****ing over the poor yet again
     
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    King’s College Hospital is to lodge a complaint with the press watchdog over a journalist who allegedly impersonated a friend of a victim of the Grenfell Tower fire in order to get an interview with him.

    It is understood that the Sun was trying to get an interview with Mario Gomes, a resident on the 21st floor who has been hailed as a hero after racing back into the building to find his 12-year-old daughter.

    Sources say a Sun journalist has been accused of attempting to impersonate a friend of Gomes to hospital staff in order to interview him.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/16/sun-journalist-grenfell-tower-victim-hospital

    The Sun being scum again
     
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  5. Whiteley Saint

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  6. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Protest taking place outside Kensington Town Hall right now.
     
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  7. SaintinSerbia

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    Wouldn't it be nice if the owners of the 1 million pound "holiday" flats down the road offered their part time flats to house the Grenfell tenants til they were found new accommodation? be asking too much?
     
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  8. fatletiss

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    That's a bit harsh. At least they're not sat at home watching on television or having a "private viewing" like May.
     
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  9. TheSecondStain

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    Well, if they said they'd make sure everyone effected would be temporarily housed in Windsor Castle, then it might mean something.
     
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  10. fatletiss

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    This is awful however I would just point out that the FR cladding would have still burned and still taken lives and I would say the same number. They should have gone for the better grade, actually... no, they should have gone for something different altogether, because it's plastic. FR plastic still melts and burns.
     
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  11. fatletiss

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    That would have been better true, but to knock them for visiting is (in my opinion) a little unnecessary. They are public figures who may have felt that they wanted to visit these people to offer condolences and they may have thought that it might help someone's feeling.

    I think it's just knocking for knocking sake. No need.

    This has been a terrible event but we should just save all our thoughts and energy for the people who have suffered and raise the right questions on how this could have happened. Needlessly criticising someone for doing what they thought the correct thing to do, is not necessary.
     
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  12. TheSecondStain

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    Indeed, there are numerous materials. There is a cladding I've known about for a couple of years made from rock-wool. It has excellent insulation properties, is almost entirely fireproof, but is fairly expensive relative to the cladding on the Grenfell Tower. Then, for the future, there is always the plastic called Starlite, which has resurfaced, since the inventor died without revealing its chemical formula, as someone else has re-discovered it via trial and error. Here's an early demonstration of the original Starlight plastic from 1990: Now that would make a superb material. And it was a plastic. Had you heard of it FLT.?

     
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  13. TheSecondStain

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    Yes, I agree with that. But do remember that the ordinary people in the streets and towns do enough doffing of caps and pulling of forelocks. It's about time they were heard and put first. Visits by dignitaries can almost be considered as insulting, these days, and I think there's a little of that in people's minds at the moment.
     
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  14. fatletiss

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    Can't do right for doing wrong
     
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    Never heard of starlight. I'll do some digging
     
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    Yes, I get that. And also, we can't expect angry people to be on their best behaviour.
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

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    Important. It's Starlite, not Starlight. Otherwise you could be digging for some time.

    And I appreciate I misspelled it during my original post <doh>
     
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    I'm pretty sure that, if I was lying in that hospital bed I'd just think, "Piss off - you have no idea what I'm going through." Yes, there might be some who'd welcome them but not me. I was just being honest.
     
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    Going to be bad tomorrow
     
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  20. TheSecondStain

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    And I understood exactly that. I'd almost certainly be in the same camp. Who wants to sit up and stoically smile, whilst in pain and thinking of everything and everyone you've lost and some dignitary comes and sympathises but you know ultimately does zero because they can't speak out. It's nice of them, but ultimately its just a lot of photographs of them sympathising and me looking at my worst, when I want to be private. Now if an independent ex-politician, with a gift for oratory and justice, came along, say... Barack Obama, I might think it was worth the sitting up because I'd press upon him to make sure those people in power start doing the right thing for the ordinary person, rather than for people who don't need help.
     
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