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Discussion in 'General Chat' started by DUNCAN DONUTS, Jun 2, 2017.

  1. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    God's Cock and I
     
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  2. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    What about youse?
     
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  3. Toley Fart

    Toley Fart not606's best fighter

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    <cheers>
     
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  4. Ponders Revisited

    Ponders Revisited Well-Known Member

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    Said with a Brum accent, yes?
     
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  5. A.L.D.O 4.1

    A.L.D.O 4.1 1 of the top defendants in Europe

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    Ahem, coincidence? Archie had knowledge about the latest atrocity hours before it happened.

    Explain yourself ****o.
     
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  6. aberdude

    aberdude Well-Known Member

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    I like fallout I do good shout <laugh>

     
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  7. DevAdvocate

    DevAdvocate Gigging bassist

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    Glaswegian.
     
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  8. DUNCAN DONUTS

    DUNCAN DONUTS SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR

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    God's cock and myself is still correct is it not ?
     
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  9. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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  10. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    This is one of the points that annoys me the most, from its sure stupidity. Labour left a big deficit. The Tories either had to completely rape the state or remain in deficit. The Tories chose to remain in deficit and grow the national debt.

    One of the biggest complaints from the left is austerity - one of the biggest complaints from the left is now growing national debt. One relates to the other, pick a side you paceless ****s.
     
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  11. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Tories promised they'd fix it all in a few years and failed completely, even with their austerity and corporation tax cuts.
     
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  12. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Yeah because they were useless ****s who couldn't perform miracles with the material they had to work with. That's not even the point - it's comparing UK debt from Labour in 2010 vs Tories in 2017 - and not acknowledging that growing debt was caused by either not enough austerity - or a lack of a magic growth plan which no **** would have ever pulled off.
     
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  13. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Those figures just prove that the Tories haven't improved ****. They claim the opposite.

    Get it?
     
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  14. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    No, they prove that debt has got bigger - and they say nothing about who would have made it less bigger. During the entire period Labour were arguing to spend more, not less. So this is a stick that you are trying to beat the Tories with, which doesn't stand up to any sort of honest analysis.

    Btw I'm cheering against the Tories here, but just don't like genuinely illiterate arguments from the enemy of my enemy.
     
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  15. Toby

    Toby GC's Life Coach

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    Osborne claimed that thanks to their austerity the deficit would be eliminated by 2015. It's not.

    Austerity hasn't worked. The figures prove it.

    We can't tell what they would have been if Labour was in power as they weren't in power. How you would want that data to be come up with baffles me.
     
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  16. Mind The Duck

    Mind The Duck Well-Known Member

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    Meh

    We disagree with what you're doing and what you're doing is failing

    Seems reasonable to me
     
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  17. Black Caviar

    Black Caviar 1 of the top judges in Europe

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    £1 in 2010 vs £1 in 2017

    these comparisons dont seem to account for that either, agree with mick

    I could have bought 10 packs of onion rings with a pound in 2010, in 2017 I can only buy 6
     
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  18. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    The deficit has grown to the extent it has as a direct result of the deflationary effects of austerity. Letting the air out of a deflating balloon does not help it to fly.

    Christine Lagarde sees this, & admitted as much to Yanis Varoufakis. The ECB, George Osbourne, Theresa May, the editors of the Mail, Telegraph and Sun, and apparently yourself, are among the people who do not see it.
     
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  19. Mick

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    Austerity didn't work on many measures, no - but that's not to say the alternative would have worked either. We don't get to replay our models here with altered variables. The truth is that any Government only has a limited impact on how the economy will work, especially in a globalised planet where most people in business work across borders. There may very well have been nothing but some form of 'austerity' applicable (as in the Tories actually increased state spending during 'austerity')
     
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  20. Mick

    Mick Probably won't answer PMs Staff Member

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    Yanis Varoufakis

    What a guy - sold £10m worth of books on Amazon before doing a runner. Wish I was him.
     
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