Repeat the approach shown for Manchester. Less retaliation means less reason for any more idiots to drop sanity and join this pathetic movement. There has always been and will always be people thick enough, ignorant enough or just plain evil enough to keep doing this, whether in the name of God, Allah, Mohammed, Satan or because David Icke said so. Attack the heart in silence, cut off the supply politically and stand together.
Moreover, when people say we won't let this incident change the way we live, or stop us going about our lives, then why are so many people starting to change their views and become more extreme, advocating new stances on immigration, tolerance of religions, and the introduction of Police states?
'Because David Icke said so'? Wow. I'm glad this is one big joke to you. What if you family had been involved in this incident, would you be so witty then? What does this even mean? Pathetic nonsense. Good to see you've moved on already. Onto the next eh? Hope you've copied that post so you can role it out again with minor edits. People are lying dead in the streets - some with throats slit, likely having already endured massive injuries from being hit by a truck while enjoying a night out - and the first thing that comes in your mind is the suggestion that we do nothing lest we provoke these barbarians further, as though that might make a difference? Shame on you.
Wahabi Islam is at the root of all of this. We allow extremist preachers into this country to preach their warped branch of Islam. We have Saudi funded mosques that teach that puritan rubbish. Close the ****ers down. Moderate sunni Islam and Muslims doesn't/ don't believe the **** that these cowards preach. It's akin to old testament, wrath of God eye for eye scripture that was rejected by Christians centuries ago. Moderate Islam rejects it; wahabhism, which is less than 200 years old and is effectively an offshoot 'cult' has adopted this ruthless doctrine. Saudi Arabia and the Saud family are exporting this medieval ****e to the world. Again, moderates reject it. Why do you think it is that were it not for Mecca and Medina, that most Muslims despise the Saudi's? Doing nothing is not an option. These ****ers are not like the IRA. You cannot pacify, negotiate or change the views of people that hold warped visions of a religious text that they believe gives them the right to kill and terrorize in the name of a god. These wahabi morons believe that they will be rewarded in the afterlife ffs. Anyone that believes that we should do nothing and post stupid little 'pray for London' social media ****e is part of the ****ing problem. Do-gooder, liberal, pacify the world bullshit. People are dying on the streets of our country ffs. The time for talk, rhetoric, pacification is over. Extremism needs to be a criminal offence akin to high treason. I said it after Manchester - UK citizens involved in this **** whether by demonstrations, literature or videos they possess and/ or distribute, plans to carry out an attack etc should be locked up for life. Non-UK - ****ing deport them and ban travel to the UK. This pacifist, do nothing bs needs to stop right now.
Yes, we should react but we should not over react. Don't forget the lessons from history. If we try to start banning all extreme views where do we end with the definition of extreme. Today we may all agree but tomorrow we may not. We have laws in place to deal with this and the issues mentioned by BRC and Windy so let's just use them showing zero tolerance to all and any that break our existing laws. We don't have to fall into the trap of being extremist ourselves in responding just enforce the laws we have.
Start by locking up the hate preachers. Anyone that is known to have been in Syria or wherever supporting Daesh is a risk, and should be interned if they return, or have returned to the UK.
Not going to stop until people who are suspected of terrorism are considered enemy combatants and locked away as POWs until the war is over. If you're in a war and you see someone engaging in hostile action, be it scouting, logistics, propaganda you don't just let them carry on within your area of control, you put them in POW camps. That's what needs to happen. And once a few innocent muslims get locked away, you will quickly see how their communities suddenly become very keen at identifying the black sheep. Something needs to happen sooner rather than later, or in 10-15 years, we're either going to live in a muslim caliphate or back in 1935 nationalist regimes. This is a tough choice: sacrifice the liberties of a few thousand, or put the entire population at risk. Risk the safety of our kids, our future, or wealth our way of life or just accept that a few guys are going to get locked up innocently. I'm perfectly fine with some losers who probably not going to amount to very much in life get locked away on some island.
Terrorists and ISIS supporters are cowards who exploit our laid back attitude to spread their hate. The fear of being quietly disposed of with no inspiring platform of martyrdom will deter some of these filthy pigs from rising up. Two bullets to the temple and a silent disposal of their cowardly bodies is a big deterrent.
B b b but what about their human rights mate? We should be hugging them not persecuting them if half of Twitter is to be believed.
You forgot do-gooders that reckon we should just stand back, carry on and not let them change us. Funny - If we had done that with Hitler we wouldn't be here today. These ****ers are trying to cause friction. They should now have the full force of the law come down on them.
These were amateurs last night. Scummy murderous amateurs with fake suicide vests, knives and a van. The big fear is that a large group with an arsenal of weapons cause major bloodshed.
Metro Centre on a busy Saturday afternoon. Several armed suicide bombers in each mall. It's only a matter of time.
This. It's hard to identify someone who is innocent until guilty etc. But the fact is there are approximately 30000 potentially dangerous people who may do something at any point in time and you can't just either kill them or imprison them. I don't know what the answer is but I can see things escalating before any change happens.
And that's why we're losing. Most of europe is already lost, because we hate ourselves. Happened to all empires, they implode from within due to self-loathing. If we're going to be saved, it's because of eastern europeans/balcan christians/russia and gun ho americans who still have a shred of aggression left in them. I'm not sure it's just the ideology, maybe it's just something very basic like nutrition. Too much food and wealth makes us feeble. See the fall of the roman empire. Too much wealth turns us into effiminate, disinterested, cowardly zombies. Those of us in living in tzhe UK are proper ****ed. Try buying a weapon for self defence. Try carrying an electroshocker for self defence. I bet you will get arrested sooner than some guy building a bomb for months intent on blowing up little kids. Sooner or later there's going to be an attack on a school or a daycare facility. An old peoples home or a hospital. Maybe then the masses will swing and kumbaya will turn to arson and lynchings, at the expense of yet more innocent people. All just because we refuse to compromise rounding up a few hundred or thousand nutters with beards in their pyjamas. They're not even that hard to spot are they?
This. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. It is absolutely disgraceful that in this country you can be arrested for having sex in a ****ing car in a back alley somewhere, or pee against a wall, yet you can preach the vilest trash promoting slaughter and jihad in the name of freedom of speech and remain at large. The liberal do-gooders in this country need to stfu. THEY have allowed this to happen. I don't like Donald Trump or Putin one bit but do you honestly think this type of thing would happen in their countries on their watch? The ****ers respinsible would be dead or in prison well before the event.
