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Claude Puel - Gone!.............Confirmed.

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by A Matter Of Time, May 1, 2017.

  1. garysfc

    garysfc Well-Known Member

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    Thought the article pitched it pretty well. You jump on the VVD part but he does mention & explain. Everything else is pretty much spot on & well balanced.
     
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  2. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    http://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/45752/

    Article about our turnover of managers. In the 36 years from Ted Bates to Nicholls, we had only 3 managers....compared with the 20 managers in the 26 years since then. A Saints manager in recent times has an average tenure of 15 months....though the last two left rather than were sacked. Hard to build stability on that but it does show the sense in having a system independent of the manager. We get managers in to match our criteria rather than have them completely overturn the club for the short timespan that they are here.

    I hope we back or sack Puel....be very wrong to let it drag on whilst we secretly approach managers behind his back and only let him go when we land another fish. Saints should make an announcement and make it soon, then Claude can get on with the summer or we can openly look for a replacement. Personally, I'm expecting him to undergo an inquisition and then be kept on. (Cue him getting sacked....what do I know?<laugh>).
     
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  3. Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc)

    Ronnie Hotdog (MLsfc) Well-Known Member

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    Well he essentially says VVD isn't a stand out player. Which, in my opinion, is ridiculous. His injury has made no difference hence all the rumours still persisting.

    He also seems to have forgotten Bertrand and the fact he will most likely leave
     
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  4. Drummerhero

    Drummerhero Active Member

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    I don't get this... you do realise this forum is the minority right?
     
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  5. garysfc

    garysfc Well-Known Member

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    So you dismiss the whole article because of those points. That's very short sighted; IMO.
     
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  6. fatletiss

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    I am a huge fan of Bertrand and want him to stay, however I wouldn't describe him as 'star player' material. I've only ever seen one left back who grabbed a team by the scruff of the neck and dragged them forward like a star player. He was some 17 year old Welsh kid ... wonder whatever happens to him.
     
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  7. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Unless someone asks every fan, we will never know what is the majority view. An anti-brigade can be the noisiest and attract others to their cause. I suspect many are neutral....be happy to get behind a new manager, but will shrug and hope for better next season if CP is kept on. I am less for Puel than I was as the end of the season was very disappointing....I saw little sign that the team fully understood what they were supposed to be doing. There were just flashes during the season showing what we could do....but no run was established. If Claude stays on, he had better deliver quickly in the new season....can be very hard to turn fans round.
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    If he stays and we lose the first couple of games, it's going to be hideous.
     
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  9. Onionman

    Onionman Well-Known Member

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    Rule one of assessing surveys from the excellent book "How to lie with statistics" by Darrell Huff: Who says so?

    So, the sample is people who went to the Daily Echo website (possibly not even regular readers / Saints fans / even football fans) and felt strongly enough to click on a button as often as they desired (with even the slightest level of know how one could vote a hundred times in five minutes) and were given a simple choice (stay or go, no option for "give him till Christmas/ "let him help with recruitment"). So 68% of that self-selected sample given a simple binary choice, voted "go". Is it possible, just possible that people who want him to go might be more motivated to vote? Or even vice-versa? Either way, it becomes meaningless.

    I refer the honourable member to the answer I gave a moment ago.


    The people who shout the loudest aren't always in the majority. It's also true (in my experience) that people who are shouting loudly are using their emotions rather than their brains. Not to say that that's always wrong but it's still generally true.

    Here's just as scientific a survey. Everyone I know on first name terms (not just Not606ers) who has been to watch Saints this year wants Puel to be our manager at the start of next season.

    Vin
     
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  10. Saint Helen

    Saint Helen Well-Known Member

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    I'm sorry, but if he considers that Echo poll seriously then he's an idiot.

    I don't think he's an idiot.
     
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  11. gregvul

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    So many happy clappers on here. Not spoken to one fan who wants puel here next season. Boring football and lame tactics are part of his DNA. He won't change.

    Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk
     
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  12. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    You've just 'spoken' to a lot of 'happy clappers' on here via your post, many of whom do want him to stay. So....
     
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  13. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace Forum Moderator

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    So you signed up to a forum of "happy clappers" 2 weeks ago because...?
     
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  14. SaintinSerbia

    SaintinSerbia Annoying Twat

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    if he was going to be sacked, wouldn't that have happened by now?
     
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  15. St. Luigi Scrosoppi

    St. Luigi Scrosoppi Well-Known Member

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    Never waste your time trying to debate anything with an idiot.
     
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  16. Archers Road

    Archers Road Urban Spaceman

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    There was a local lad a few years before who did something similar, but he stayed around for a few years before getting his big money move.

    Funny how Wayne Bridge's career was effectively shunted into the sidings when he moved from Saints to Chelsea. while Ryan Bertrand's was resurrected when he moved in the opposite direction.
     
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  17. nice teeth

    nice teeth Well-Known Member

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    They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.
     
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  18. SouthamptonFCroatia

    SouthamptonFCroatia Well-Known Member

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    Pompey fans hate us though, so they would surely vote for Puel to stay. :1980_boogie_down:
     
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  19. ElliotMP

    ElliotMP Well-Known Member

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    Really, have you watched the football that he got Nice playing?
     
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  20. Saints_Alive

    Saints_Alive Well-Known Member

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    I put the fans in two categories, the patient ones and the impatient ones, some great Managers have had indifferent first seasons in English football.
     
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