My name is Whiteley Saint and I have voted Tory in the past and will do on June 8th. I am obviously an uncaring, nasty right wing toff who has no idea what they are doing. Although you don't know me, so I can't prove this, this assumption could not be further from the truth. It just shows how stereotyping people who vote in a certain way, or do things you don't, is incredibly narrow minded. I don't affiliate with any party but pick the one who, in my opinion, talks the most sense at the time. I am surprised at how many seem to have a fixed unbending view of anyone who doesn't vote left in someway. It's certainly an eye opener for me.
Whiteley, there have been 6,782 posts on this thread. No-one thinks any less of the left wing or right wing posters. There's been hours of banter, and that's all it is. Come the election we won't have made a Labour voter vote Conservative or a Conservative voter vote Labour. We'll just know who we want to sit next to in the pub! (depending on whether we like political banter or not) Nobody here thinks you are an uncaring, nasty right wing toff who has no idea what they are doing!
Glad to hear that SS. I think some posters get a little carried away at times. I don't take it personally but some of the assumptions being made so strongly are so off the mark it's hard not to make a comment without starting a ruck. I usually just don't get involved.
I'm sure you are a caring, nice, moderate, normal person. The question is why you are therefore going to vote an the uncaring, nasty right-wing toff party I'm not advocating anyone should vote for any particular party, but they should notice what's happening to Health & Social Care under this government while the really-rich just keep on getting ... really-richer! Just saying
Maybe because that is not my opinion. The NHS and Social care from my personal experience weren't good enough before the Tories got in. Labour are no better.
Don't worry, WS the Tories are just getting into their stride. You give them a proper mandate and they'll take it as an excuse to start considering insurance based health care. Our NHS may have been the first, but it's no longer the envy of the world. Several NHS's in Europe are better supported and financed. But not only that, they are going back to selective education. Already, people have to pay for University education, due to Tory [and Clegg backed] legislation. Unless you are very comfortably off indeed you are voting for a reduction in your own quality of life. And also, isn't it ight that the poorest in society are better looked after, rather than left to rot.?
Thank goodness that far right Le Pen didn't get in. There is a rise amongst the far right that needs to be defeated because it it isolationist and immoral. We're having our own dose of it here but we don't want the rest of Europe suffering it too.
I accept that to an extent, but don't see how the Tories are going to improve it by under-funding and lower taxes The figures are clear Tory governments increase NHS funding by less in real terms than Labour and while I accept that more funding isn't the whole answer, do you think the Tories know how to improve services with less money? If they did I'd probably vote for them too The current government's main policy seems to be to spend less and tax less and it isn't improving the lives of ordinary people, but meantime the rich are getting richer
I think the confusion arises as the Lib Dems said they wouldn't raise fees and then the Coalition raised them
Ah, there's the rub. Yes, I always fall for that one. At least nobody disagreed with the rest of my stuff.
I thought onion was responding because labour bought in the first raises in tuition fees to 1k, then to 3k before the coalition bought it up to 9k
I think I always find the Tory/Coalition rise in tuition fees sticking in my brain because they ramped it up so much. !-3K is doable, if poor enough in itself, but 9K is being politically selective outright. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Clegg trade the backing of the rise in tuition fees to put in the referendum for AV.? Which the Tories laughed out instead of backing a serious debate and vote.
