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Ol' Dirty Tel said:
The perils of being a loyal supporter mate. It'll be a sad day in my life when I let the actions of 11 chumps decide my long term mood.
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It doesnt affect my long term mood, it used to but I find as I get older there are other things to worry about. I'd just like to think that supporting your football team might occasionally brighten up what can otherwise be a lousy day/week/month/year. It doesnt, we have been embarrassing and dire for years now. Oh just to win 3 games off the belt????? I stopped going to matches when we were still at Roker Park in the 90's. I think we were 2-0 up against relegation rivals Oxford and got beat 3-2. It was then I decided I'd had enough. I wasnt paying £3 to get in and watch that rubbish!!!! <laugh>
I'm an armchair supporter since and I'm slightly pissed off. If I had a season ticket and forced myself to watch the ****e we dish out nowadays I'd be a raging inferno by now. I feel for the people who spend their hard earned cash on them, the drug must be so deep in their system they just cant drag themselves away. I'm pleased I got out when I did.
 
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Quentin's Play-Telescope said:
It doesnt affect my long term mood, it used to but I find as I get older there are other things to worry about. I'd just like to think that supporting your football team might occasionally brighten up what can otherwise be a lousy day/week/month/year. It doesnt, we have been embarrassing and dire for years now. Oh just to win 3 games off the belt????? I stopped going to matches when we were still at Roker Park in the 90's. I think we were 2-0 up against relegation rivals Oxford and got beat 3-2. It was then I decided I'd had enough. I wasnt paying £3 to get in and watch that rubbish!!!! <laugh>
I'm an armchair supporter since and I'm slightly pissed off. If I had a season ticket and forced myself to watch the ****e we dish out nowadays I'd be a raging inferno by now. I feel for the people who spend their hard earned cash on them, the drug must be so deep in their system they just cant drag themselves away. I'm pleased I got out when I did.
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It wasn't long ago you relegated your biggest rivals, went on an 11 game unbeaten run and you were all buzzing.

If there's a sport that has it's ups and downs more than football I've never seen it.

I think you lot can possibly take a bit of hope from your rivals now, if you go down, it's not necessarily doom and gloom, they're having a great time down there, far better than you're having in the PL.

At the end of the season, if you stay up, many of you will say you wouldn't swap a season of misery but ultimately survival, for a season of banging teams in a lower division for fun.

Do you want to be a part of the big league or do you want to win games frequently? Only a select few clubs can have both.
 
Ol' Dirty Tel said:
It wasn't long ago you relegated your biggest rivals, went on an 11 game unbeaten run and you were all buzzing.

If there's a sport that has it's ups and downs more than football I've never seen it.

I think you lot can possibly take a bit of hope from your rivals now, if you go down, it's not necessarily doom and gloom, they're having a great time down there, far better than you're having in the PL.

At the end of the season, if you stay up, many of you will say you wouldn't swap a season of misery but ultimately survival, for a season of banging teams in a lower division for fun.

Do you want to be a part of the big league or do you want to win games frequently? Only a select few clubs can have both.
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Our usual cheeky little end of season form doesnt mask how bad our club is being run from top to bottom. For me it doesnt neutralise the stench that we have to put up with, particularly as the stench returns rather quickly and more pungently as soon as the first ball of the new season is kicked. The fact that nothing changes is demoralising. When other teams are bad, they are bad. When we are bad, we are shocking. When we lose now, and the manner that we lose, I just chuckle like a drugged up lunatic in a straight jacket!
 
Ol' Dirty Tel said:
It wasn't long ago you relegated your biggest rivals, went on an 11 game unbeaten run and you were all buzzing.

If there's a sport that has it's ups and downs more than football I've never seen it.

I think you lot can possibly take a bit of hope from your rivals now, if you go down, it's not necessarily doom and gloom, they're having a great time down there, far better than you're having in the PL.

At the end of the season, if you stay up, many of you will say you wouldn't swap a season of misery but ultimately survival, for a season of banging teams in a lower division for fun.

Do you want to be a part of the big league or do you want to win games frequently? Only a select few clubs can have both.
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Ideally I would like us to get relegated but bounce straight back up with a new team mentality of hungry, hard working players.......please!
 
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I have read this before but I will put it on this thread.
We finished the season of ok.
Never got relegated.
Then just before the start of the new season big Sam was stole from us and moyes took his place ok that bit is fine.
Now this is what I've seen before.
Why did we not keep the same team that finished last season including yedlin and mvilla.
NO MOYES WANTED HIS OWN TEAM AND DISSMANTELD ARE PERFECTLY GOOD ENOUGH TEAM.he brought in players not good enough.
Well if he had added one or two to the squad and played with the proven team settled us in a comfortable league possition
THEN IN JANUARY GET HIS PLAYERS IN AND BUILD HIS TEAM.
Just thought like what I've read
And yes I know we have had injuries
 
Ol' Dirty Tel said:
It wasn't long ago you relegated your biggest rivals, went on an 11 game unbeaten run and you were all buzzing.

If there's a sport that has it's ups and downs more than football I've never seen it.

I think you lot can possibly take a bit of hope from your rivals now, if you go down, it's not necessarily doom and gloom, they're having a great time down there, far better than you're having in the PL.

At the end of the season, if you stay up, many of you will say you wouldn't swap a season of misery but ultimately survival, for a season of banging teams in a lower division for fun.

Do you want to be a part of the big league or do you want to win games frequently? Only a select few clubs can have both.
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Thats me 100% couldn't give a f uck what division we are in how any body can be remotely happy watching this s hite week in week out just so they can say they support a team in the prem makes me wonder if they are a 100% in the noggin.
 
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Ol' Dirty Tel said:
He'll get time, for sure.

Most of your defeats have been by narrow margins, aside from Arsenal and Everton.

Not much needs done to turn 1-0 defeats into 1-1 draws or even wins, but it depends on the attitude of the players from here in out. They have to graft their nuts off, or you'll end up getting more 3-0 and 4-1 defeats as other teams find their stride.
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Surely there's not much solace that can be taken be constantly losing my the odd goal? If a team loses every game of the season 1-0 (and if sunderland continue that way that'll basically be what happens) , no analyst is going to look back on it and say those 28 games that were 1-0 could've easily been draws, what an unlucky manager. Especially considering there have moments like when losing by the odd goal has been the result of squandering a 2 goal lead with 20 mins to go ie Palace.

Table doesn't lie, 2 points from 30 is clearly an absolutely rotten squad and a manager who isn't working, no amount of bad luck or near misses gets a team in this situation.
 
Charlie Dogscock said:
Surely there's not much solace that can be taken be constantly losing my the odd goal? If a team loses every game of the season 1-0 (and if sunderland continue that way that'll basically be what happens) , no analyst is going to look back on it and say those 28 games that were 1-0 could've easily been draws, what an unlucky manager. Especially considering there have moments like when losing by the odd goal has been the result of squandering a 2 goal lead with 20 mins to go ie Palace.

Table doesn't lie, 2 points from 30 is clearly an absolutely rotten squad and a manager who isn't working, no amount of bad luck or near misses gets a team in this situation.
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I pointed it out because it's probably a lot easier to fix a team who are losing narrowly in most games, than it is to fix a team that are being battered every game.

Dunno why you're chatting about analysts to be honest, we're discussing football here, who cares what a bloke who compiles data has to say on the matter?
 
The-Cat said:
I hope I am wrong but this is the way I see things. Last season we had a manager who turned us around with shrewd signings and instilling a great team spirit which resulted in top 6 form for the last 12 games. The whole club and supporters were in great fettle and awaited the new season with renewed hope which had been missing for years, Unfortunatley we all know what happened next .
Step forward David Moyes, I must admit I have never liked the bloke ,I thought he was overrated ( think it took him 3 years to steer everton away from releagation)and was found out after his appointment at Man U but none the less was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt, Silly me.
This bloke has had his ego booted in the last 3 years and is intent on proving himself at our expense. No way was he going to continue " the good work sam has done " because he didnt want anyone to be able to say thats Sam's team. Look at how things have turned out ( remember the whole F.A saga only put things on hold) He seems intent on either selling and not following up with purchases of good loan players and pissing off any of Sams first teamers. Look at the Kone situation, if that had been Sam he would have been interviewed by the press regarding evertons offer where he would have laughed out loud in piss take fashion and said something like "they just got 50 million for stones, so we want 60 for Kone. Mvilla would have been signed already along with Yedlin and I dont believe Kaboul would have left, whos next? khazari? Seems to me he wants nowt to do with Sams players and that has resulted in clashes resulting in transfer requests for whatever reasons. Look where the blokes is shopping ,championship, man u's not good enough squad and out of contract players .I honestly do not believe its because of Ellis Short , I think he will cough up if need be . I can see us been right in the ****e after 10 games with this ****er where after,he walks away. How can this ****er say we are in a relegation fight after 2 games !!!!!!! only one reason to say it, to give him more time, he was prattling on about putting relegation battles behind us only 3 weeks ago . Is this man Steve Mcclaren in disguise. I hope I am wrong .
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Well congratulations are in order I think, the blokes done a cracking job. Absolute stability ,stable at the foot of the table .Dragged a team on the up at the end of last season to a team devoid of any spirit/fight etc from the get go.The man has drained the city not just the club.Thanks again Moyes you ****ing fraud.
 
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The-Cat said:
Well congratulations are in order I think, the blokes done a cracking job. Absolute stability ,stable at the foot of the table .Dragged a team on the up at the end of last season to a team devoid of any spirit/fight etc from the get go.The man has drained the city not just the club.Thanks again Moyes you ****ing fraud.
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Still can't quite believe that virtually before a ball had been kicked he said that we're in a relegation battle and the players aren't good enough. What a thing to say at the start of the season.
 
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