Embarssing

I think what happened yesterday was embarassing, both on the part of Gervinho and Barton. But instead of just saying Gervinho/Barton are cheating scum I think we have to look at the bigger picture. 90% of professional footballers, if they were in the position of Gervinho or Barton would have done the same thing, wouldn't they? It also pissed me off that literally all 22 players swarmed the officials after the decision trying to manipulate them. The ref should have just told everyone but Gervinho, Barton and the 2 captains to **** off, or they get booked. Unfortunately I think this culture of cheating is now ingrained in our game and the professionals are ruining the reputation of a great sport.

On the whole red cards debate, the ref made the right call, Gervinho raised his hands, and the rule is that's a red, Barton threw himself to the floor holding his face, and although it's disgraceful, there's nothing in the rulebook against it. Also the referee cant take much blame for the Song incident as the play was elsewhere so he cant have seen it. But Song should be given a 3 match ban through retrospective punishment.

Thoughts? (Try not to be biased towards your own team for once and don't just say 'Gervinho/Barton/Song are scum blah blah blah')

 

Gervinho and Song should have both been sent off, Barton should never have bothered getting involved with Gervinho in the first place though.

 

i hate it when people fly to the floor when hands are raised but its not cheating its just manipulating the rule to help the team, he didnt do it against gervinho. he did it to help the team and the squad so its not cheating.

 

What Barton did was exactly what he was reprimanding Gervinho for in the first place in my book. Tiote made a slight contact with Gervinho and he threw himself down, Gervinho touches Barton's face and Barton does the same thing. Very trivial incident that everyones talking about.

 

But it is a bit hipocritical, going mental over someone throwing themselves to the floor then doing the same thing seconds later.

 

I think the question you've got to ask is, if Barton hadn't of reacted to Garvinho's slap, would Gervinho have been sent off? Probably not?

I think that's down to the referees - it seems you HAVE to throw yourself to the floor to win a penalty or get somebody sent off, cause if you don't they'll assume nothing happened.

 

I'm not sure if its fair to compare the two because the tiote clip is a normal part of the game, while handbagging a player isn't. So although Joey made a meal of it, I think playing up a red-cardable act like slapping a guy is different from Gervinho flopping. You also have to consider that it wasn't the first Gervinho dive in the box, and Song had already gotten away with a cardable offence on Joey.

 

Agree with everything in the post. Would be interested to hear Newcastle supports views of Taylor's actions which in my view were much worse than what Barton or Gervinho did. Songs stamp also seems to be getting much less coverage, any word on a retrospective red card for him, 3 match ban for the stamp surely.

 

From an outsiders point of view, Song and Gervinho should of definitely been sent off (Wenger has clearly lost the respect of the players and lost the dressing room). But to be fair Barton should of been shown red too. You can't grab someone like that these days and expect to get away with it - i honestly think his acting skills saved his arse.

Either way - im happy as Gervinho (and possibly Song) will miss next weeks match

P.S great point for you guys to be honest, considering the recent events at Newcastle. Best of luck for the season.

 

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Which Taylor? Ryan or Steven? And what did they do?

 

IMO, I think Barton had every right to reprimand Gervinho for diving. The little **** had been doing it constantly for 70-odd minutes, flailing himself over in a manner Tom Daley would have been proud of. Add that to the fact that Song got away with stamping on his achilles and no wonder the bloke was pissed off.

HOWEVER, whatever point Barton was trying to make was instantly vetoed the moment he threw himself on the floor when Gervinho slapped him. Those that argue what Barton did was helping the team, I'm afraid that's exactly what Gervinho was attempting to do by diving. Hypocrisy at it's finest, although it did make me and everyone down the pub piss ourselves laughing when we saw it.

 

Giving the elbow signal to the ref, he saw it was a little slap but is telling the ref it was a big elbow. I really think the ref didn't see the slap but thought "its Joey Barton, he is not the kind of player to roll around on the floor without being properly smacked" and Taylors elbow signal made his mind up.

 

I think that if it was any other player instead of Barton then they would not be mentioned at all apart from being the victim. Pedersen went down like he was shot when Barton patted him on the chest and yet there was nothing about him going down easy it was all Barton is a disgrace, Barton is a thug. The whole media coverage of the incident has pissed me right off because they just focus their simple minds on Barton with the off hand mention of "oh yes Barton was stamped on by Song and was slapped on the head by Gervinho." ****ing skysports even say "If he'd (Barton) been the one who'd stamped on Song, this would've been escalated 10 times over, particularly in a week when he's been a crusader for truth and justice. We'd be looking for 10-match bans if he'd done that." Then why not show the same courtesy to Song?

Arsenal were a disgrace yesterday and I am positive if we had acted like them then it would be raining **** right now.

 

I'm guessing the linesman saw it and not the ref.

Also, I'm guessing you mean Steven, Ryan Taylor was probably stood in the corner of the pitch looking forlorn and lonely.