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Jermain Defoe can leave Sunderland for nothing

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Makemstine Roger, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Oviedo is a better left back than Van Aanholt. Lescott was brought in to make numbers up as was Gibson (although why the **** he plays ahead of N'Dong is beyond me!) Van Aanholt is terrible defensively - he'd be a great left winger mind!

    Regardless of your profit - you've still spent the money - what happens next season if Ashley says "They got us easily promoted so they can keep us up" - Rafa would probably walk and you'd be up the creek without a paddle - if you think he won't dare, look at what he's done over the time he's been there and have a think about it!
     
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  2. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Think I hadn't even realised I put the term in but I knew what I meant - have a look at my signature man!! The whole sentence doesn't make sense - "World record in that division" well that division is in England and it's the only division so technically - I'm not wrong - but my choice of words is utter ****e!!
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    TBF given his pedigree, and the size of the club, you'd expect him to be the highest paid, I can't think of any good managers who've stepped down into that league before Benitez?

    Rumours are afoot that he's being undermined by that clown who the Newcastle fans think is a magic scout yet has never uncovered anything, other than a pile of gay porn under his son's bed, perhaps Rafa will walk after the season is done and they're promoted, he keeps his dignity (or whatever was left after Fergie savaged him) and they fetch Pardew back <laugh>
     
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  4. marcusblackcat

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    That would be funny as ****!!
     
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  5. BIG BAZ

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    Looks like the reason why defoe didn't demand a move away in January was because of this. What a **** up by Sunderland. 6m down the drain.
     
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    ??? How have Sunderland ****ed up here precisely?

    If Jermain Defoe has stated "I will sign a contract extension if you allow me to leave in the event of the club being relegated" should the club have said "Fine we'll sell you now then"? Sensible option all around - we signed a player towards the end of his career and swapped him for a donkey. £6m Has got us some great moments and got 36 goals in 77 games - tell me how that money was wasted?
     
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  7. BIG BAZ

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    We paid 6m for donkey then swapped him for defoe so when defoe leaves for nothing then we 6m down. Bad business simple
     
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  8. marcusblackcat

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    Yet without his goals we'd have been relegated last season and the season before - which means him being here have made us over £50m - so good business surely? Or does that not count?
     
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    Now you are talking ****e FFS. If we'd sold Defoe in January for a £8m I guarantee you attendance figures would have dramatically dropped and we'd have saved **** all.

    I honestly can't believe you are suggesting any club should sell their top goal scorer for a measly sum in the middle of a season.

    Now go fill some more shelves and don't be ****ing when you get to the Tampax isle.
     
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  10. BIG BAZ

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    His goals has made us more than 50m but we as a club haven't seen any of it. Just paying of the bank loans.

    The way I look at it is we down 6m over the deal. You think different that's life
     
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    Fair ewnough - but regardless of the fact that the club have "seen nothing of it" - we'd be £50m more in debt - as business goes, that's pretty good business
     
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  12. BIG BAZ

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    We be more in debt if we didn't sack the managers over the years to.
     
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  13. mackemwelder

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    Can't remember where but I read yesterday that we are already in £20m debt for this tax year.
     
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    That's not strictly true though, is it?

    Port Vale are not more in debt than you because they don't have Defoe.

    You've spent, sorry, wasted a lot of money trying to compete in this division, structured deals on player purchases, hiring and firing poor manager after poor manager. It's been typically awful business really since the day the guy took over. You'd probably be in less debt I'd imagine if you went down a few years ago.

    Having said that, selling Defoe in January, is probably unforgivable. It would have been an immediate resignation of attempting to stay up by the club.

    It was a no win situation, sell Defoe and give up, or keep Defoe, go down and lose him for nowt.
     
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    Incredible if that's true.
     
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  16. BIG BAZ

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    Wouldn't surprise me pal. The clubs debt just keeps on getting bigger.
     
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  17. The Norton Cat

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    You're almost always going to lose money on a player of the age that Defoe was when we signed him (sponsorship, prize money, and shirt sales aside) as, at that age, his value is only going to depreciate as he gets older, he may decide to retire (meaning no sell on income at all), and you have to pay his wages.

    If this clause was the only way to get him to sign then we have only gained by being able to have him in our side for the last few seasons. I also think its fair enough as if we'd been relegated his first season here there would have been no point in him leaving Toronto without the clause; the draw for him was obviously Premiership football.
     
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    That's the key and if we had not been FA'd and still had BSA here we would be challenging nearer the top 6. But we are a resilient club and still a premier league team - imo we need to be positive atm and see where we are after Man U game
     
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    He isn't retiring tho is he, he does Yoga and is a vegan now, he will play forever!
     
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  20. The Norton Cat

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    Do you understand the concept of rhetoric?
     
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